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Live: Man shot by federal agent in south Minneapolis this morning, witnesses say (www.startribune.com)

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Additional reporting from Bring Me The News. They have removed the following text from their coverage:

Federal agents briefly detained our reporter at the scene, who says he was tackled to the ground and had a gun put in his face.

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[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The executions will continue no matter how much you protest.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The problem is that going from civil resistance to actively shooting ICE means dealing with paratroopers. That means a LOT more dead.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The executions will continue no matter how much you protest.

But how we protest can stop the executions.

They know they won't face legal consequences, so the only thing they have to fear, is an armed populace.

I still havent seen a single video of ICE in the general area of armed protesters, and I imagine when I finally do, it will be of ICE running away.

Armed protest don't escalate shit when there's already murders like this, they deter violence because it shows that regardless of who's side the legal system is on, in the heat of the moment both sides have guns and are capable of using them.

It's small scale MADD, which is better than one side having a monopoly on violence

[+] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Armed protesting will do nothing more to change the government’s clearly stated course of action than unarmed protesting has.

You're confusing a psychological issue with a sociological one...

Half of all ICE agents could be killed in the streets tomorrow and it wouldn't change the governments view, stance, policy, action, anything...

But the cowards out there doing it?

They're willing to do it because no one will hold them accountable. If they think there's an actual chance someone holds them accountable in the moment, they're just gonna leave.

When they feel that way everywhere, they still won't escalate to shooting first, because then they know others will shoot back.

They can't shoot 10 people at once. And they're not willing to die for this shit, just willing to kill for it. So it doesn't matter how much we die, just how likely they think their own death could be worst case scenario in the moment.

Zero actual violence required, and it results in a net decrease in violence...

I swear motherfuckers never heard:

Speak softly and carry a big stick