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Actually I looked up the real story of Johnny Appleseed and he was more about making hard cider and selling land. ๐Ÿ™ƒ

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[โ€“] Manjushri@piefed.social 21 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Your Johnny Appleseed comment reminded me of my favorite movie musical, Paint Your Wagon (1969) with Clint Eastwood and Lee Marvin. And, yes, they both sing!

Elizabeth: Did you know that the Fenty's had an apple farm back in Pennsylvania?

Ben Rumson: Apple jack, huh?

Mr. Fenty: No, sir, we did not make apple jack.

Ben Rumson: Then, what did you grow the apples for?

Mr. Fenty: Mr. Rumson, do you think that everything that comes out of the earth should be used to make liquor?

Ben Rumson: Whenever possible, yes.

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[โ€“] Njos2SQEZtPVRhH@piefed.social 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

My garden, or what's left of it, is full of insects stealing it.

Ants can steal more than 10x their body weight in one go.

Let me introduce you to my neighbor Mr. Groundhog.

Over here it's small mammals and birds that get most of the yard tree fruit.

[โ€“] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ants see it as legitimate salvage and will take you to court over it. Not worth the hassle tbh.

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[โ€“] GhostPain@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Correct, it was a land grab scam based on the laws of the time.

IIRC, if he planted trees it was then his land because he was using it, so he could then sell it for actual money. This was after the military had killed or chased out the natives who lived on it, of course.

[โ€“] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (31 children)

IIRC

You don't recall correctly, and I have no idea where you got that information. Appleseed actually was a successful businessman who bought some land, owning about 1200 acres (~5 km^2^), but by all accounts he was a genuinely good person, and I've never heard what you're saying (and not substantiating) that he did.

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Only practical issue, is that unpicked fruit falls and makes a mess. but I don't think it is a big issue, as we already tend to deal with leaf foliage falling in the fall, and no one complains about that. there is also the concept of botanical sexism which has been fucking everyone with allergies for decades. So I will 100% be in favour of using fruiting trees in urban areas.

Look at Valencia, they put orange trees in the streets. and it is a beloved Valencian institution.

[โ€“] Beacon@fedia.io 11 points 3 days ago

iirc Johnny Appleseed spread seeds so people could make alcoholic cider

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