Explain Like I'm Five

It isn't legal, and the Constitution expliclty forbids this.

Welcome to fascism, did you think for some reason ... words written on paper would... restrain them or matter in anyway?

They are fascists.

Their whole thing is ... truth doesn't exist, language is a weapon, not a means of reaching a mutual understanding.

They only understand one thing, and that is violent force, and the physical and societal logistics that make it possible.

If your game plan for resisting fascists is 'but that's illegal!', you've already lost.

It isn’t legal. And they haven’t changed the law. It’s just now their policy to ignore the law.

Right now they’re trying to “shock and awe” everyone into submission and compliance before the law catches up with them.

Laws only work if there is a penalty for breaking them. Example: it is against the law not to release the Epstien files ... but what is the penalty for breaking that law? Nothing was written in. The same for ICE, no one is checking them and they are staying out of Castle Law states.

You can tell them to piss off but they can beat and/or kill you and get away with it so words arent really gonna have much stopping power in this case.

We live in a society where might = right. If you have the firepower or other means to stop them from entering your private space then you have the right to do so. 

It's not legal. But the law is a piece of paper and a gun is a gun.

You guys haven't really had rights for a while, by the sounds of it.

it is very much unconstitutional and definitely illegal. but you would need a functioning congress and a supreme court to rule on it or whatever

The rule of law has ceased to exist in the US. It has been replaced by the rule of power.

You either get used to no longer have rights, or you can start to get them back.

Laws only work one way now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception

We have ceded civil liberties when within 100 miles of a boarder, this happened decades ago and most politicians were ok with it because it didn't make the news.. just a quiet tool in the toolbox....

Well, the tool is now being used

If they don’t respect the 4th amendment they get the second amendment

The main question is how legal would it be to shoot at masked armed gang breaking into your home to kidnap you and your family without any judicial warrant.

Because that is exactly what the 2nd amendment is for

It doesn’t matter whether it’s illegal. If you don’t have rule of law, which is the reality that MAGA has us living in, then all that matters is if you can get away with it. If you can’t or won’t be held to account, then there is no law

As Pompey said, "Cease quoting laws to us that have swords."

The law only exists so far as it is enforced. Who will enforce the law against the state? Political power grows out the barrel of a gun.

Wow look at those big bois. I bet they go home, scream at their kids, then beat their wife and dog.

It doesn't matter what the constitution says when the government chooses to ignore it.

The Constitution is a piece of paper with words on it that no one pays attention to any longer.

You're forgetting the "Nobody is going to stop me" exemption. The constitution is just a piece of paper if nobody is willing to defend it.

This is very satisfying in a schadenfreude kind of way. I have been lectured to by Americans and those influenced by them for decades about the importance of their constitutional freedoms to shoot children and spread hate speech.

Some liberal western democracies don't even have a codified constitution and still have better human rights and fairer government than the USA. Without a well functioning representative democracy with preferential or proportional voting, concentrating enormous executive power in a single tyrant without strong protections was always obviously exploitable.

I think a lot of them are still living in denial and think the good guys are going to come in and defend the constitution at the last minute. Hope they are right. It is one hell of a gamble for them and the rest of us.

If someone was in the process of actively murdering me, I would think it safe to assume they are aware that murder is illegal. If I tell them it's illegal, they're probably more likely to double down and make sure I'm dead so that I can't be a witness.

Laws are only laws when they're enforced. After decades of training law enforcement to hate and fear the average citizen, they don't care to enforce laws that exist to protect those citizens.

And don't tell me it's always been that way. It's a matter of degrees and there's been a effort for decades to normalize police violence. It was bad, but it's been engineered to be worse.

The law is only the law insofar as it is enforcible.

“Instead, the disclosure claims that the memo was rolled out in a secretive manner in which some agents were verbally briefed while others were allowed to view it but not keep a copy,” Blumenthal said. “It was reportedly clear that anyone who openly spoke out against this new directive would be fired.”

Seems like they know it's not

The world champions of mass shootings and gun hoarding in case of a corrupt government: whatever can we do? Is this legal?

Oh you can tell them to piss off. But they have more guns than you do.

The Constitution also gives Congress the right to a constitutional convention. This means that it can be possible for the US to become socialist by way of constitutional reform. Seriously!