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Chinese technology companies are paving the way for a world that will be powered by electric motors rather than gas-guzzling engines. It is a decisively 21st-century approach not just to solve its own energy problems, but also to sell batteries and other electric products to everyone else. Canada is its newest buyer of EVs; in a rebuke of Mr. Trump, its prime minister, Mark Carney, lowered tariffs on the cars as part of a new trade deal.

Though Americans have been slow to embrace electric vehicles, Chinese households have learned to love them. In 2025, 54 percent of new cars sold in China were either battery-powered or plug-in hybrids. That is a big reason that the country’s oil consumption is on track to peak in 2027, according to forecasts from the International Energy Agency. And Chinese E.V makers are setting records — whether it’s BYD’s sales (besting Tesla by battery-powered vehicles sold for the first time last year) or Xiaomi’s speed (its cars are setting records at major racetracks like Nürburgring in Germany).

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 129 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's like he wakes up every morning and asks himself "What can I do to make sure China owns the 21st century?"

[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 81 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Thats because he's stuck in the 80s. It's common for people with dementia to fall back to a time they thought was good and for him, it was the 80s when oil was king.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Frankly you're giving him too much credit. If oil is really still king it won't need his help. He might be able to claim he was just being fair if he had only removed subsidies, but he was and still is actively sabotaging adoption of electric vehicles, like by terminating the USPS contract to buy all those electric mail trucks or removing already installed EV chargers at federal sites.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 13 points 2 months ago

This is one of those situations where the venn diagram of Trump's handlers becomes a circle.

You have the billionaire Oil executives that want to continue using all their existing infrastructure and wasy access to continue printing money like they do now. Meanwhile, those companies all see the writing on the wall and know it's running out so they're investing in or buying technologies and companies working on alternatives. They're playing both sides because they're not idiots.

And then you have the manipulators like Putin (who we know Trump idolizes) with their goals of destroying American power across the board. Having America not only abandon new technologies but even propping up the old ones past when they should be phased out to focus on century-old priorities while the rest of the world continues to move on, helps that overall goal.

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 82 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Coal Brittain -> Petro Murica -> Electro China.

It's funny how China said years ago that was the plan and they're doing it while nobody stopped them because of short term greed.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

nobody stopped them

What would "stopping them" have even looked like?

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 65 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Competing. No one really even tried.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 17 points 2 months ago

Yeah, it means giving up the current cash cow and they'll only do that when it's visibly dying. And then the competition has too much of a headed start so it's already to late.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Europe just did a 180 on the commitment for no ICE cars to be sold from 2035 onwards under pressure of just a handful of big automakers.

And when I say Europe, I actually mean crooked European politicians rather than the public in general.

I mean, even if one puts the aside the whole strategical point of Europe delaying even more commiting to the first big tech revolution of the 21st century so that a handful of large automakers make a little bit more profit, there are actually lives as stake: fumes for diesel cars are estimated to kill more than 10,000 people a year in Europe.

Corruption in politics is both killing people and fucking up our future prosperity.

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[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Facing reality and evaluating technologies through the crucial era of the 2010s with an eye on efficiency and pollutant reduction in the overall energy sector. From there, having the empirical justifications to your nation that focusing on energy storage and further electrification would be more beneficial than fossil fuels.

Rather than doubling down on the existing status quo due to lobbying and sunk cost beliefs from prior consumption rates.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Yes, China has very purposefully put itself at the forefront of the first technological revolution of the 21st century and done this at multiple levels (solar panel production, battery tech, EVs)

Meanwhile the American elites have decided that 19th century technology is were they want to be. Well, that and dead ending killing the country's lead in the Tech revolution by going down a branch with no future in the form of LLMs and making everybody lose trust in keeping their data in anything owned by American companies.

And, of course, the crooked politicians here in Europe are actually following America more than China in this.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It is a lot more complex than "Europe is actually following America more than China in this".

Europe have very limited lithium deposits compared to China. Europe is trying to be as self sustaining as possible, especially now that the US have shown themselves to be a highly unreliable partner.

So exchanging one dependency for another is a poor lateral move at best.

You can't just start digging up the entire ground and make car batteries out of all lithium you find.

European universities all over are researching alternative battery technology that doesn't rely as much on lithium.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 months ago (4 children)

None of that is true. There is lithium everywhere, Germany just found 45 million tonnes of it. People have been digging up the entire ground for oil for 200 years.

You can research all you want, but the periodic table is not changing, and Chinese R&D is decades ahead of the West.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah, well, there's no Oil in Europe either, so ICE cars are even worse for a self-sustaining Europe (at least Lithum is only consumed once for an EV car, whilst Oil is consumed all the time for ICE cars)

If Europe can constantly source Oil from abroad to keep ICE cars going, I'm sure it can also source (a far lower quantity of) Lithium from abroad to make cars that can then run on electric power produced right here in Europe.

Your entire "argument" is one big cherry picked excuse.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Beyond EVs, the much cheaper sodium-ion battery is entering mass production in China. We can already buy B-grade cells on AliExpress. This will have implications for all sorts of use cases that could use batteries but don't due to cost.

[–] Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

much cheaper sodium-ion battery

To my understanding, these aren't suitable for many use cases we associate with batteries (smartphones, EVs, laptops), but it has the potential to have a massive impact on utility scale battery systems and industrial use cases.

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, conservatives don't think of the future except through the lens of the present. They can't imagine a world with EVs and batteries because they have oil brains. They are looking for solutions to problems with an oil first mindset. Sunk cost is everything.

[–] traxex@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago

Need to remember where they are getting paid from as well. That’s oil money lining their pockets.

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[–] fennesz12@feddit.dk 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Our Danish company Ørsted which produces wind power, has been in a huge legal dispute with the American administration for months over this. He wants oil, even if wind is cheaper:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/jan/02/rsted-files-legal-challenge-against-us-government-over-windfarm-lease-freeze

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He wants oil even if the wind is cheaper, the wind farm is almost finished and already producing power

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah because it's not so much "he wants" as "oil and gas corporations are paying him for".

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[–] Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I wonder if the prediction that China will hit peak oil in 2027 will come true. This will have a massive impact on oil markets.

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[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Oil is the longest word he can spell without spellcheck.

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oil companies will probably go the way of the Encyclopaedia Britannica, going broke. They’re continuing to invest heavily in oil infrastructure at a time when the market is shifting and even now there is a flattening of demand for oil products where EVs are becoming prevalent. The trend will start to hit profitability and they will most likely double down.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

go the way of the Encyclopaedia Britannica,

Still quoted by facists who pretend it's a better source than Wikipedia?

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago (13 children)

I don't know if he's obsessed by oil. So far when a president invaded a country because of it's oil, it always went with a cover story to justify it. Now the (cover) story provided by Trump is oil, so it may be possible it was all just to get the Nobel prize. As trinkets are all he cares about. Now it looks like he wants what I want when playing hearts of iron: make all the continent mine.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

EVs alone have major grid balancing potential. You can get home batteries for under $100/kwh in US right now, and cost of EV batteries have always been lower due to bulk/contract purchases. At $100/kwh, even from grid TOU use power, you can time shift profitably for just 1c/kwh before financing costs, but before resilience/backup benefits from batteries.

Solar is by far the cheapest way to charge those batteries, where home solar without monopoly persecution from utilities, as in Australia, can be extra affordable. But even before abundant solar is permitted in our countries, or even net metering, simply having TOU rates that are cheap at night allows for enough arbitrage for when TOU rates are high. Where some EVs are $300/kwh to $500/kwh for the entire car, TOU rates can allow for arbitrage that pays for whole car.

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