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I think people who like Disco will like Starfleet Academy.
The premier had some neat parts, but I think the structure, pacing and writing of the show have moved away from something I easily recognize as Star Trek and at the end, I was left more confused than interested in more.
It took me far longer than I want to admit to understand you meant Discovery, and weren't making a snarky comparison between those that like this show and those that enjoy Disco music.
Yeah, I think I'll skip it tbh. Discovery was a chore to watch.
I liked disco for the most part but so far the only parts of Academy I liked were Giamatti's villan and the return of the Doctor.
The rest was just sort of a resounding 'meh'; the plot didn't hold me, the space-high-school melodrama between the cadets was boring and at times cringeworthy, and the big action sequence left me with more questions than answers.
I kind of disliked Giamatti’s character, honestly; just a bargain bin Harry Mudd.
Otherwised enjoyed it.
Paul Giamatti seemed to be in a different show than the rest of the cast. It was like Giamatti was playing a cartoon Joker. It really clanged with me, his jokes and humor didn't work at all and I hope we don't see him again.
How big of a truck of money did they back up to his door for this?
I’m very happy with Academy so far, but I’m upvoting due the quality meme.
Same. I have no idea what people are complaining about, or even that they were complaining at all.
It's a high school drama in a Starfleet academy. It barely counts as SciFi and every scene is melodrama. There are two star Trek princesses and a street rat main male character whose an idiot but somehow also a genius and of course, extremely hot, and is immediately in a love triangle with princesses. Every position of authority at the academy is held by a woman and the head of the academy spends part every scene showing you how cool and non-conventional she is by being completely unprofessional. This show is a startrek soap opera.
Every position of authority at the academy is held by a woman
Ew! Star Trek gots GIRLS in it? Gross!!
There are even gaaaaays!!!! Oh noes!!!
Thank you, totally agree.
The school drama between the cadet-guys was so forced and the officers acted irresponsible, sometimes even incompetent.
It also felt more like a mix of Hogwarts in space and Xavier's school for gifted youngsters.
Why can't they start their training on earth instead of flying through open space with a minimal crew and lots of kids without any qualification and without any permission on the ship?
SAM is the photonic version of season 1 Disco Tilly.
Lura Thok (number one) reminded me of Lt. Commander Bortus from Orville.
This thread is convincing me to give it a try. I can't stand any show whose entire plot revolves around "adults are idiots and do stupid illogical unrealistic shit but the kids are smart and insightful and smarter than everyone."
"Series of Unfortunate Events" is obviously that to the point it is really satire, and thar's cool enough. But then you've got Harry Potter. Holy shit it hurts. Wednesday was the same thing and turned me off in the second season. Don't even bring up Stranger Things. I give that one kinda a pass because it was meant to recapture the 80s nostalgia of things like The Goonies, which, to its credit at least didn't rely on incompetent adults to advance every story line.
This one got away from me...
I don't like that the premise is the same as micheal from discover.
Gets in trouble. Gets a chance at proving themselves after solving a problem that no one else could.
They really should have come up with something else.
But it's fine.
I was kind of getting a "Harry Potter but scifi" vibe from the second episode.
Shenanigans followed by magic fix (slime). And the little magic holograms that pop up conveniently.
Oh and student teacher rivalry.
Yeah definitely a Hogwarts vibe. Or The magicians. But scifi.
I thought in the first episode the acting was a little rough but hey, watch the first season of tng, it's rough too.
I'm still open to seeing more.
I'm not one of those trekies who hate anything that isn't tos or TNG.
I like all of it except enterprise. And that's mostly cause I really don't like the captain. And I don't know why but I don't. And I can't get over it.
I even mostly liked Picard. Especially the 1st season. Kinda downhill after that.
There's plenty to critique in every series. Plenty of inconsistencies.
But I still enjoy the world building and stories.
My biggest complaint is all of the stairs. Why are there so many stairs?
Does seem rather ableist.
As someone who has attended a few colleges and universities- there are stairs flipping everywhere. Even outside.
Like they couldn't level the campus grounds , no ?
Stairs.
Stairs into buildings. Stairs inside the buildings. Stairs in the parking garages. Stairs outside on the grounds by any buildings.
Stairs stairs and more stairs.
I swear it was intended to wear out the students to keep them from having too much energy on their hands. Or maybe intended to keep students in shape. Idk.
I can only assume the show creators visited universities (especially older campuses) and tried to be authentic.
Uh....maybe it's because tens of thousands of students have to move between classes?
I watched the first episode (it's on Youtube). After reading a the shit talked about it online already, I wasn't sure what to expect. I honestly enjoyed it. It is not TNG/DS9/Voyager/etc, but it was well done. The actors, the characters, all have potential. It is no longer tethered to any other show/ship/character, so they have the freedom to do something new. I am encouraged.
I just don’t trust the new owners of paramount.
I feel there was a targeted campaign against this show before it even came out. So many videos appearing in my algorithm saying how bad it was and how it’s doomed and how it’s failed etc.
I’ve already found it better than Discovery. And it’s not as bad as I was expecting. It’s still fast paced and wish it would slow down a little, and if the camera could stay still for more than 1 second that would be great.
But besides that, is decent.
There's a targeted campaign against every new Trek series.
From the very beginning. People back in the day were complaining that not only was this Patrick Stewart some poncy theatre bloke instead of someone with real television experience, but he was bald, for goodness sakes.
Those videos really exploded in my feed about a week before it came out, and none of them has seen it yet. I don’t know if it’s coordinated or if it’s just the inevitable response of the algorithm rewarding topical hate mongering, but it’s a painfully obvious grift either way.
Yeah I went to watch one as its title and thumb seemed definitive like they had watched the previews or something. Started watching and it was clear they had not seen anything besides stills.
It’s been pretty enjoyable so far. Caleb, Jay-Den, Sam, and Genesis all have good chemistry as a main cast. Not every show needs to be TNG: Season 8. There’s some nits one could pick, but I’m looking forward to see where it goes once it’s out of character introduction and exposition mode.
My faves so far are the photonics (Sam and the Doctor) and Number One (half jem-hadar/half klingon). I don't understand the hate. They even brought back the old Klingon design!
I like it 🤷.
The characters are pretty likeable. There is some intentional silliness, and I'm totally OK with that.
Agreed. But it also has Holly Hunter as Barefoot Casual Spacemom.
So I'm probably going to watch it.
Star Trek needs some time off. I enjoyed these two episodes but after the Section 31 "movie", and the quality of it all the past few years... It just needs to go away and find a new creative team.
I don't watch star trek anymore. Havent watched SNW, haven't watched this either, and won't ever.
I hope one day I can go back and watch TNG or DS9 again without feeling the cringe from ST Picard.
I watched 5 episodes of STD and dumped it, it was awful CGI slop. I regretfully watched the nu trek movies and they're literally much worse remakes of earlier star Trek movies.
Then came ST: Picard, which has managed to ruin even TNG for me for a long, long time. I knew it would be terrible but everyone and their mother was repeating the aggressive marketing campaign that it would be absolutely awesome and ooooohhh god it was bad. They fucking ruined Q... That pissed me off.
Want to watch the true successor to star trek, in heart and mind? Wat h the Orville. Seasons 1 &2 are awesome, 3 kinda went into the same shit direction like star trek with longer episodes, weaker stories and much, MUCH more CGI to make up for it and hope we wouldn't notice. Season 3 is still not AS bad as nu trek, but it's close. 1&2, though, best trek since DS9, they even have their TBOBW moment!
Yesterday I watched a few minutes of the first episode. I was very confused, I guess I missed a few shows.
Is this show centred around a single character again?
No, it seems like it will follow a gaggle of students, but the premier starts with setting up the dark backstory of one of them in an over the top way and it takes forever. Eventually they get to Starfleet Academy.
::: Spoilers for the first 15 minutes: I found the setup for this baffling. The 3 minute military tribunal that determined that Caleb Mir should be ripped away from his mother felt very unlike anything I've come to expect from the Federation. Then it's tonal whiplash with the person who took a child away from their mother trying to play surrogate mom and get the kid to go to school? :::
No worries if you found it confusing. Every few seconds there's a baffling decision displayed, so it kinda short circuits the brain and makes it hard to pay attention.
I shut it off the first time I tried to watch it. Seems like the first half of the premier could have been a flashback in season 2.
