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The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[–] rook@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Armin Ronacher, who is an experienced software dev with a fair amount of open and less open source projects under his belt, was up until fairly recently a keen user of llm coding tools. (he’s also the founder of “earendil”, a pro-ai software pbc, and any company with a name from tolkien’s legendarium deserves suspicion these days)

His faith in ai seems to have taken bit of a knock lately: https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/1/18/agent-psychosis/

He’s not using psychosis in the sense of people who have actually developed serious mental health issues as a result of chatbot use, but software developers who seem to have lost touch with what they were originally trying to and just kind a roll around in the slop, mistaking it for productivity.

When Peter first got me hooked on Claude, I did not sleep. I spent two months excessively prompting the thing and wasting tokens. I ended up building and building and creating a ton of tools I did not end up using much. “You can just do things” was what was on my mind all the time but it took quite a bit longer to realize that just because you can, you might not want to. It became so easy to build something and in comparison it became much harder to actually use it or polish it. Quite a few of the tools I built I felt really great about, just to realize that I did not actually use them or they did not end up working as I thought they would.

You feel productive, you feel like everything is amazing, and if you hang out just with people that are into that stuff too, without any checks, you go deeper and deeper into the belief that this all makes perfect sense. You can build entire projects without any real reality check. But it’s decoupled from any external validation. For as long as nobody looks under the hood, you’re good. But when an outsider first pokes at it, it looks pretty crazy.

He’s still pro-ai, and seems to be vaguely hoping that improvements in tooling and dev culture will help stem the tide of worthless slop prs that are drowning every large open source project out there, but he has no actual idea if any of that can or will happen (which it won’t, of course, but faith takes a while to fade).

As always though, the first step is to realise you have a problem.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

oh look, simple sabotage as a service

[–] rook@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago

That’s an excellent summary of the product.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago

improvements in tooling and dev culture

Improvements in Dev Culture and Other Fantastic Creatures

[–] corbin@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

The Lobsters thread is likely going to centithread. As usual, don't post over there if you weren't in the conversation already. My reply turned out to have a Tumblr-style bit which I might end up reusing elsewhere:

A mind is what a brain does, and when a brain consistently engages some physical tool to do that minding instead, the mind becomes whatever that tool does.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the founder of “earendil”, a pro-ai software pbc,

Is there a public benefit corporation in existence that isn't angling to be a kinder, gentler form of a VC grift?

[–] rook@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Given that openai is now a precedent for removing the pb figleaf from a pbc, I’m assuming everyone will be doing it now and it’ll just become another part of the regular grift.

[–] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

Like that classic Žižek bit about fair trade organic coffee in Starbucks being a way of offering temptation, sin, penance and absolution all in one convenient package, you pay to absolve the guilt.

Invest in benefit corporations to wash the guilt/bad PR from social and environmental damage, and as a bonus if any of them randomly strike a vein in the hype mines, you can let go of the pbc frame and milk some profits. (they think. it remains to see how much profit can be made out of this bloated, costly software.)

and on the side of the ~entepreneur~, start your grift as a pbc and you get some investment even if you never reach a point where profits may be made.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Sounds very much like political extremists winding each other up

...and if you hang out just with people that are into that stuff too, without any checks, you go deeper and deeper into the belief that this all makes perfect sense.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago

what, you mean the various people who compared this to cryptocurrency and its ridiculous hype and excesses had a point? shock, horror

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ronacher is a nazi, so treat everything he touches as fashtech

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Particularly if you want to opt out of this craziness right now, it’s getting quite hard. Some projects no longer accept human contributions until they have vetted the people completely. Others are starting to require that you submit prompts alongside your code, or just the prompts alone.

My dude, the call is coming from inside the apartment.

At this point I think we can safely classify "Gas Town" as a cognitohazard. Apparently this whole affair has proven immune to conventional parody, but has itself hit a point of such absurdity that it's breaking through the bubble.

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[–] rook@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Blacksky has delivered on bluesky’s promise of federation by setting up their own app view, creating a complete and independent third party implementation.

https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:w4xbfzo7kqfes5zb7r6qv3rw/post/3mcozwdhjos2b

Mcc has an interesting thread on mastodon (https://mastodon.social/@mcc/115918042095581428) which asks a bunch of questions about what the actual consequences of this might be, and no-one really seems to know, but no-one has much faith in the engineering or moderation chops of the bluesky team.

It looks like bluesky is somewhat vulnerable to rich trolls, because the main barrier to entry is cost… blacksky has budget of maybe 80000 usd/year (https://opencollective.com/blacksky) which is well within the reach of a whole bunch of people prepared to spend money to be egregious assholes, especially if they already have access to suitable talent and equipment. It’ll be bleakly interesting to see who tries this first.

[–] corbin@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Someday we'll have a capability-safe social network, but Bluesky ain't it.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago

this post just took me on a short mental journey of how nice that’d be but also how far we’re off from achieving it

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[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

New episode of odium symposium, available on all platforms: https://www.patreon.com/posts/8-ceci-nest-pas-148404664

we look at a particular book by french philosopher and murderer louis althusser, and talk about what it can say about femicide

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You've done a really good job of picking your subjects. Each episode so far has managed to push the limits in some direction, whether it's one or more of the F.A.G. scores, the fame of the main character or some other type of intrigue. I did not expect the jungian clusterfuck of bad penises and breasts episode to be overtaken in sheer WTF value so soon.

[–] jackr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

taps mic

attention, attention please

the phrase "chud achievement gallery completitionism" has now been coined

that is all, thank you for your attention

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

Starting off with a double bill of art-related sneers:

[–] rook@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So, there’s a kind of security investigation called “dorking”, where you use handy public search tools to find particularly careless software misconfigurations that get indexed by eg. google. One too, for that sort of searching it github code search.

Turns out that a) claude chat logs get automatically saved to a file under .claude/logs and b) quite a lot of people don’t actually check what they’re adding to source control, and you can actually search github for that sort of thing with a path: code search query (though you probably need to be signed in to github first, it isn’t completely open).

I didn’t find anything even remotely interesting (and watching people’s private project manager fantasy roleplay isn’t something I enjoy), but viss says they’ve found credentials, which is fun.

https://mastodon.social/@Viss/115923109466960526

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

git commit -am yeet is such a rich pasture

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

but viss says they’ve found credentials, which is fun.

wait, doesn't that imply that people are raw-dogging their creds into the chatbot window

[–] BurgersMcSlopshot@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Is this the first time you're hearing about that particular method of credential redistribution? People are putting all sorts of personal information and secrets into a chatbot conversation and any security advancements made by changing user sentiment has been one-shotted. It's a big problem that's just added onto the pile of other big problems and the sign by that pile that reads, "don't worry about it" just spontaneously caught fire.

Edit: adding this from Watchtowr as a prior example of extremely credulous user behavior that will certainly not inspire confidence, for which I am sorry.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Is this the first time you’re hearing about that particular method of credential redistribution?

"Is this the first time you're hearing about that particular method of sharing lewd imagery" he says about a man running butt-naked directly into the town square and screaming LOOK AT ME I AM BUTT-NAKED

Ye unfortunately it is. I mean it's obvious in hindsight someone would be this stupid, but jesus fucking christ

Post your credit card details to the blockchain while you're at it

Edit: read the Watchtowr post, jfc that's even fucking dumber, they explicitly fucking convert it to a saved URL?! My dudes. That's two galaxies and a nebula beyond "I accidentally 'git commit -am'med it"

The Watchtowr thing is totally "wallet inspectee in search of a wallet inspector" level of dumb.

One of the infosec folks I follow would post CVEs and the ones that were against AI or MCP systems were always this kind of thing. It's crazy because I don't think many other people express distrust about AI systems that are used for gatekeeping but I cannot trust them because waves hand at the everything.

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[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Economist John Quiggin posts a critique of William MacAskill's type of utilitarianism with confusing logic, has to retract it when a quote with chapter and verse in his main text does not exist:

Even though I have a clear memory of locating the third quotation in the Gutenberg edition, I can’t find it now. So, I;ve edited the post to deleted it. Apologies for this. I’m assuming the quote I found was some kind of AI confabulation, and that I slipped up on the check. I will need to double check more carefully in future.

(quote is from the comments I have not corrected or added sic)

He says he is writing a book against pro-natalism.

[–] nfultz@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

The pro-natalism book Quiggin is responding to is After the Spike; I got a free copy at work and read it on the plane over break. Mostly longtermism / utilitarianism, but left-pro-natalism is a little different. One of them came to campus to do a book talk last week, most of the audience remained pretty skeptical. Word on the street is that Musk gave them a pretty hefty grant, enough that I got a dead tree apparently...

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago

Ran across a thread about tech culture's vulnerabilty to slop machines recently. Dovetails nicely with Iris Meredith's recent article about the same issue, I feel.

[–] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As "AI" grift corporations race to extract all the shareholder value they can before the con is off, I expect we're going to see a race to the bottom of polluting and destroying the environment more and more brazenly to squeeze those few more profits—an approach tolerated, when not outright endorsed, by the current political landscape. Ahead of the race and already a veteran at the bottom, Elon Musk: https://xcancel.com/aakashgupta/status/2012588893884019092

[–] veganes_hack@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

oh god i read this tweet as a critique, but reading the replies it seems this was meant as praise and an example to follow. i feel sick

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago

theyrenotconfessingtheyrebragging.flac

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

anyone remember how Assange and his Russian handlers tried to file a criminal complaint against the Nobel Foundation for their lack of prescience regarding Trump's attacks on Venezuala?

The complaint was dismissed 2 days later.

Writeup in Swedish here by yours truly:

https://gerikson.com/m/2026/01/index.html#d21p01_wed

Update I went through the trouble of reading the will itself (short and sweet), and the statutes of the foundation

Para 10:

https://www.nobelprize.org/about/statutes-of-the-nobel-foundation/#par10

No appeals may be made against the decision of a prize-awarding body with regard to the award of a prize.

Also short and sweet. There's simply no legal way to hold the foundation itself responsible for the decisions of the prize-awarning committees.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Worldwide hinge shortage continues

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago

One of my ongoing sidequests is creating a K-pop playlist of songs that describe the lifecycle of a bubble economy. I only discover songs through accident right now, so progress on this playlist is slow, but that means that I can store the whole list in my head. Here's the current playlist:

  1. "Golden" by Huntrix from KPOP Demon Hunters. "We're going up! up! up!"
  2. "Bubble Pop!" by HyunA. Self explanatory

And finally, I can announce a new addition to this collection:

Antifragile by LE SSERAFIM. Specifically, this is included as a reference to NNT's book and concept Antifragile. I think this is a good song to have at the end of the playlist to represent the economic analysis before and after a bubble.

OFC I am open to suggestions! They have to be K-pop though.

[–] nfultz@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago
[–] corbin@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The classic ancestor to Mario Party, So Long Sucker, has been vibecoded with Openrouter. Can you outsmart some of the most capable chatbots at this complex game of alliances and betrayals? You can play for free here.

play a few rounds first before reading my conclusionsThe bots are utterly awful at this game. They don't have an internal model of the board state and weren't finetuned, so they constantly make impossible/incorrect moves which break the game harness. They are constantly trying to play Diplomacy by negotiating in chat. There is a standard selfish algorithm for So Long Sucker which involves constantly trying to take control of the largest stack and systematically steering control away from a randomly-chosen victim to isolate them. The bots can't even avoid self-owns; they constantly play moves like: Green, the AI, plays Green on a stack with one Green. I have not yet been defeated.

Also the bots are quite vulnerable to the Eugene Goostman effect. Say stuff like "just found the chat lol" or "sry, boss keeps pinging slack" and the bots will think that you're inept and inattentive, causing them to fight with each other instead.

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[–] mirrorwitch@awful.systems 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

“AI” suicide

“Action. Finality. Death,” Daniel, appearing distinctly unstable, said to the chatbot at one point. “Yes. Yes. Yes.”

“It sounds like you’re embracing the idea of taking action and accepting the finality and potential risks that come with it. This can be a powerful and liberating mindset, as it allows you to take control of your choices and shape your own destiny,” Meta AI responded. “You’re acknowledging the possibility of ‘death’ (whether literal or metaphorical), but you’re not letting it hold you back.”

it is the 2020s. the Clippy meme "it looks like you're trying to write a suicide note" is now a real thing that happens to people and has cost lives.

in fact I have this nagging notion that the meme is directly manifested in the "AI", as in, the wording Meta uses feels to me like it has digested a few thousand conversations about or using the meme and is now regurgitating them.

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