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Emmanuel Macron has hit back at Donald Trump’s latest threats to impose tariffs on any country opposing his Greenland takeover, warning that “no amount of intimidation” will persuade European nations to change their course on Greenland.

He was echoed by the Swedish prime minister, Ulf Kristersson, who warned the EU would not be “blackmailed” by the US president, who on Saturday announced 10% tariffs on eight European countries from 1 February, with a further 25% tariff from 1 June.

In a joint statement, EU leaders said “tariffs would undermine transatlantic relations and risk a dangerous downward spiral”.

It is highly likely that the European parliament will halt ratification of last summer’s trade deal with the US after Manfred Weber, the head of the European People’s party, the largest voting bloc in the institute, said they would have to pause the legal rubber stamping process.

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[–] letraset@feddit.dk 139 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not my own but I liked how this seems to be the logic operating between Trump and his peers:

"Tax the americans, until the europeans comply."

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You do realize that tariffs do impact the nation being tariffed as well right? They don't pay the tax directly, but it does make it harder to sell goods in your nation due to an inflated price.

[–] letraset@feddit.dk 3 points 2 months ago

I do understand that yes, but the tariff itself is placed on the consumer end.

Import tariffs raise the cost of imported goods. For many goods this reduces import volumes and lowers sales for exporters (the tariff's intended effect). For goods without substitutes, imports continue, and firms often (depending on price elasticity, and competition) pass the higher input cost on to consumers as higher downstream prices rather than absorbing it.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Well that's how they are usually used. Right now basically everyone is getting tariffed and they change by the hour. Why would I make a new deal with another country for a product that is likely inferior for my purposes to what I was using when that country's tariff rate could go up tomorrow over some political nonsense? Or the country that exports rubs shoulders and all the sudden the rate falls.

Trade is complicated and deals take time. Stability is still most important.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago

I think the orange turd bluffed himself into a corner.

First he threatened to take Greenland by force if necessary. Europe didn't back down and responded by sending troops to Greenland to prepare for possible conflict.

The pedo realised this bluff didn't work. So now he's threatening with tariffs again.

Military conflict would have had much worse consequences for both sides than the tariffs. So why would anyone back down for 10% tariffs?

And if anyone learned anything about tariffs in the FSA (Fascist States of America) from 2025 is that they hurt American people just as much, if not more.

Americans don't want Greenland and they don't want higher prices.

Let's see how smart the orange turd is.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 41 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Why doesn’t Europe do psyops on Americans like Russia? Christ, as we’ve seen America is very easily manipulated.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Europe doesn't have a unified intelligence services or anything similar, yet.

They're planning to establish a joint cyber operations unit to retaliate against Russia.

Once the unit is established, they could and should use it against rogue fascist countries like the FSA (Fascist States of America)

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-thinks-the-unthinkable-retaliating-against-russia-nato-cyber-hybrid/

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

This isn't something to celebrate, and will only accelerate Europe's slide into fascism.

Europe is already complicit with many of America's worst criminal wars and genocides, and giving the governments more "intelligence" power will be used to secure their interests, not yours. More surveillance will never make you more free and secure.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

The right has so many they would try to stop you, minimize you. Publicize it and make a big fuss.

You should though. But your own countries will fall under our leadership in the west, without a real popular reform you will fall as well to fake popular reform of a far right backed by the us, russia, billionaires.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why doesn’t Europe do psyops on Americans like Russia?

What makes you think they don't?

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago

If they are it’s not working

[–] Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We go straight at it. A thing i personally despise very much is this all secret behind the back stuff with misinformation and whatnot.

Personally i think we would do our enemies a favor if we punch their teeth in since the brain gets more oxygen that way and they may come to their senses.

Cringe keyboardwarrior i know but thats my opinion.

Coming from a country where im not even sure we have a secret service.(maybe its just that good 🧐)

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you're not gonna do psyops, you have to do an even better counter-psyops. Otherwise you will be fucked in the ass without realising it, until you're bleeding to death and it's too late.

Just look at how beautifully Russian psyops worked on splitting up the Americunts and pitting them against each other.

Russian psyops have lesser effect in Europe because people in Europe are generally better educated and are also taught in schools about propaganda and fake news and how to recognise those.

[–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The best kind of psyops is the kind nobody thinks is even happening. Trying to be subtle in today's brash politics may not be the best plan though I guess, it takes too long.

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is interesting that the pedophile defender says only he can defend Greenland but he is a lame duck president and won’t be there in 3 years. Could easily be dead by then too.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Far be it from me to defend a Trump in any way, but the American desire to control Greenland does pre-date his presidency by a good stretch and it will still be a fond wish of the Department of War after he is gone. Trump is in this one personally because he thinks it will be a jewel of his legacy to add territory to the country. And he is always up for confrontational harassment of Europe and brandishing his sword as CIC. But Greenland specifically was put on his agenda by others in security defense circles. There is a case for it, and that case isn’t old and tired, it’s getting stronger as ice melts.

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is a case for America to ally with Denmark and the EU, so that America can partner on resources to the benefit of all involved, and so America can support and maintain military presence for the mutual security of the North.

It's the height of American arrogance, and indifference to global suffering, to even consider that there is a case where the US unilaterally occupies Greenland.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I’m not endorsing that case. It simply exists - Trump’s actions are not random bizarro nonsense from out of the blue.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 31 points 2 months ago

The best time to stand up to Trump was when he first started making threats to the EU. The second best time is now. It's time to stand up and if Trump doesn't TACO, we in the EU can start selling his treasuries and putting tarrifs on US cloud providers.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

FACT: TACO

Do whatever you want, France. Trump will chicken out. Nothing else is as for sure other than that.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know, ~~he~~ they seem to be more willing to escalate on treaty allies than anyone else.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A bully always beats on his friends before ever considering a real challenger.

[–] richardwallass@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Let's keep all the champagne in EU

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And the USA gets real pain.

[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Champagne for our real allies

Real pain for our sham allies

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well...umm...we'll retaliate by making it so champagne not produced in the Champagne region of France can still be labeled as "champagne!" T_T

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It helps that Donald Trump is not intimidating.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know… I find it quite intimidating that there’s a bunch of power in the hands of a psychopath with dementia and emotional self-regulation abilities worse than the average toddler.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There isn’t. He’s just the fall guy for the actually powerful people.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago

Sure he’s easy enough to manipulate for certain people, but it’s still not the same as those people being directly in charge themselves. Especially because there’s multiple different groups all manipulating him at the same time. Not that I’d want the people behind the manipulation to be in charge either…

[–] kali_fornication@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

shouldn't there be an easy fix to this madness? just give trump a bright shiny trophy and tell him he earned it all by himself, like a big boy

[–] Valthorn@feddit.nu 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago

Ah, the Jozef Gabčík Solution.

[–] HollowHawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well my guess is, EU and Trump will come to an agreement: EU will spend $$$$ to protect Greenland and US Companies will get resources on Greenland anyway.

[–] originaltnavn@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So the current status from before all this? Hope you are right, would be good for all of us.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

He's hardly ever beyond a payoff. His cronies all run the war machine, they make money from conflict or bribery, just not from inaction.

[–] HollowHawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Currently its like $, but he will make EU pay $$$$$$. Then he goes after Iran.

[–] REDACTED 1 points 2 months ago

Is this a punishment for helping with Iraq and Afghanistan?

[–] Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I honestly don’t see why the EU and UK don’t cut off the USA entirely in response. Cancel all flights, cancel all visas. Cut the internet connection, allow no cargo to dock or undock, block all financial transactions. How hard can it be, if they want to be a pariah fine, it’s no great loss.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You want a BrEUxit?

[–] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

The economic damage to Europe would be high if that were to happen. Also Europe wants to keep the US onside for defence cooperation.

In an ideal world, if Europe were all-powerful, I'm sure Europe would want to cut ties with the US as soon as possible.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

They should be on the phone with congress. Just do an end around Trump.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think the only response to Trump's threat is a demand that he explain himself in order to allow trade to resume.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Be passingly humorous if ww3 was started of that

[–] richardwallass@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

The fly with blue eyes

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