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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 75 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

This rally cry (to dismantle DHS) sounds exactly like the kind of popular policy position the Democrats always take when they are out of power. Then, when we give them the power to act, they refuse to implement it (usually in service of some nonsense like “mending”, “coalition building”, or “returning to normalcy”).

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

Wealthy Democratic Party donors/leaders need the military in the streets putting down populist uprisings as much as Republican ones do. Often they are the same people.

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Not even when they get in power.

Dems are already pushing back against people saying 'Abolish ICE'

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Absorbed into the FBI and CIA.

[–] telllos@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Because, let's face it, democrat and republican are two faces of the same coin.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

We need a third Socialist Party

[–] kablez@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

It's the same model across the western world. Two party systems dominate because it's the easiest model for the oligarchs to control us with.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's about the size of it. Of course the alternative is electing out-and-proud Nazis, so I guess its the choice that we get.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Abolish ice, abolish palintir, abolish space x and demilitarize the police. Police should have a bachelor’s degree at minimum.

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[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (30 children)

And how are we going to do that? By asking politely? Waving more signs? Marches?

Actually convincing people to fucking vote is the only peaceful solution.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

If you want people to vote for us when there isn't a Republican in the White House then we need to push for leaders who

  1. Consistently tell people Republicans are bad people with bad ideas.
  2. Tell people creating ICE and DHS were Republican ideas and they need to be gotten rid of because Republicans have bad ideas.
  3. Tell people things were better back in the 90s before ICE existed because we didn't let Republicans' bad ideas ruin everything and we could just go back to what we were doing then.
  4. Publicly disown anyone who tries to campaign with Republicans or says anything positive about them.

Deviating from those things only loses us votes.

e; deleted something that was needlessly proactive

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

we could just go back to what we were doing then.

Except what you were doing in the 90s directly led to what you're doing right now. You can't press freeze on history; that's not how systemic problems work. The solution to the problems of the present lies in the future (and leftist commie socialism), not the past.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 21 points 2 months ago

Read: There's no peaceful solution. Fascism in America has already reached critical mass. Start organizing before it's too late.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't matter how people vote if none of their available options wants to do this.

Articles like this are how you get people to sell candidates that have this position.

I guess it's just easier to whine about shit though.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

If you think you’re limited in your options to represent you in government, then it’s not the land of the free.

It may seem like there’s only two viable options, and those two options will do all in their power to convince people of that, but anyone can be elected if they gain enough support. There are independents after all, and primaries still count for something too, if enough people show up to vote.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago

There are some economic strategies too, but they would involve varying levels of self-inflicted pain. They also need significant coordination to be effective.

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 months ago

Dismantle the DHS? Whoa there. Lets cool it with the antisemitism

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 16 points 2 months ago

It's given me Nazi Germanic creeps since the moment it was named the Department of Homeland Security.

[–] ChonkyLincoln@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s time to dismantle the US Government, prosecute sex offenders, pedophiles, corrupt politicians and start over.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s time to dismantle the US Government

[–] Macallan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

He forgot to say what he would do to the billionaires.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

DHS?

It's time to dismantle the USA.

Its at this point a failed state and it should just fall apart in 50 independent countries. About half of them (I'll leave it as as exercise to the reader to figure out which ones) will turn into Canada type counties with healthcare

The other will turn into 3rd world banana republics that won't be able to feed their own population while having constant coup'detats going on. After a few decades the world will intervene and install normal functioning democracies in those countries after outlawing religion there.

A woman can dream

[–] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The world will interfere and fix them? Like who? Russia? China? Like everyone else intervened and fixed the middle east?

I hate to break it to you, but the problem isn't the usa.

The problem is the rich.

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[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I wish so bad.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

It's time to dismantle the government in general. The government (through ICE) are stifling people's liberties. It's time that the proletariat has a say. Seriously!

[–] j_elgato@leminal.space 8 points 2 months ago

But then who will protect us from those 20 guys with box cutters?

You remember, the ones they used as the excuse to establish the ministry of the interior.

[–] mar10sanch32@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

It's a war-time consolidation of power that has been irredeemably infiltrated & turned against the country's own residents. It can easily be dismantled l, with power distributed to competing agencies keeping each other in check, like it was for 200 years.

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The day I can't vote is the day I take arms.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

That might be a little like "not using the fire extinguisher until the fire has spread into the living room."

Too little, too late. Trump is talking about suspendeding the midterms. Might be time to show some guns.

[–] Postimo@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

I think this mentality breaks down in the reality of the system we currently have. They are constantly working to make your vote mean less. The structures of our constitution effective gerrymander the states' influence on national levels through the senate. Similarly, the electoral collage is built to favor the right. And after all that the higher courts have been packed by republican, effectively giving an override to functionally any law in the form of sloppy logic from a broken supreme court.

All of that to say, if you draw the line at specifically your ability to cast a vote, regardless of the voice you actually have, you've essentially decided so long as there is the theater of democracy you will do nothing to help save it.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Fuck Trump, Fuck ICE, Free Palestine!

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 4 points 2 months ago

Actually we're long overdue, the time to dismantle the DHS was the same day it was created.

[–] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Repost, reblog, re-tweet, re-truth (if you're into that sort of thing).

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