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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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https://eyesonice.substack.com/p/minneapolis-mn-notoriously-carcinogenic

While local police are banned from using chemical irritants because of the danger they pose to the public, federal units operating in our city are using a loophole to deploy a poison that toxicity experts warn causes permanent lung damage and cancer.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 155 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Jfc people we learned to deal with this in 2019-2020. Wall of Dads in portland had the recipe.

Get the fucking electric leafblowers out. Push the smoke back at the feds.

Then you take an orange cone and put it on top of the canister, then pour water into the hole on top and cool the canister down and it stops producing.

[–] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Add some baking soda to that water, shuts it of pretty much instantly.

[–] eddanja@lemmy.world 77 points 1 month ago (5 children)

So, chemical warfare? Isn't that illegal?

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 61 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Only in other countries, its up to us to stop them from killing us in our own country.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bootstraps and stuff, go look it up! /s

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago

I mean yeah, its one of the largest, richest, most heavily armed populations on earth. No one else is going to come and fix shit for them.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

We don't have a fragile reputation to protect, we can make better chemicals

[–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Only against other countries in a war formally declared by congress

[–] miguel@fedia.io 19 points 1 month ago

Last I checked most of this is illegal.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Its only warcrimes if used against citizens of other countries citizens.

its perfectly A-OK to use against your own citizens, apparently.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com -3 points 1 month ago

Be careful about claiming it to be war. Certain people do want to be able to declare martial law and be even more masks-off with mass kidnappings/killings.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 31 points 1 month ago

CHEMICAL WARFARE?

[–] Rhoeri@piefed.world 26 points 1 month ago

This is a terroristic attack. Nothing less.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

They were using this in Portland all summer in front of the ICE building that's across the street from apartment buildings and next door to an elementary school, which was forced to move to a new location when school started due to concerns about exposing kids to toxic chemicals.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Drop a bucket over it. Protesters should have buckets handy nearby. Learn from Hong Kong and resist effectively.

[–] KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

or a traffic cone; or knock it into the sewers. Do not use your hands- the canisters get VERY hot

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

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[–] CubitOom 7 points 1 month ago

hexachloroethane (HC) gas is actually most harmful when absorbed through the skin.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sorry, do ICE think they breathe a different air than protestors or do masks suddenly work at filtering out respiratory agents?

[–] CubitOom 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

hexachloroethane (HC) gas is actually most harmful when absorbed through the skin.

[–] sudoshakes@reddthat.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s the whole point of gas masks, yes.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I was referring to the little bandit masks they wear.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Molotov cocktails are cheap and easy to make. Just saying.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Used diapers and dog shit are free and they fit well in those elastic band water balloon launchers.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So are water balloons filled with paint and motor oil

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

Durian oil.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

don't like when we shoot you dead? try cancer instead!

[–] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Am I misreading that video, or is the smoke blowing back at the pigs?

[–] CubitOom 13 points 1 month ago

Give the fascist paramilitary invaders a break, they've only been trained for 47 days.