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A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

Bucha Bull to me.

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[–] Kaizodrack@lemmy.eco.br 8 points 18 hours ago

"Own nothing and be happy"

[–] GaryGhost@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Amazon sucks

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 31 points 1 day ago

Fuck you Jeff.

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 72 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Ok so the tactic is to drain the corporations of their money.

  • piracy
  • dis-enshittification
  • jailbreaking devices
  • opensource hardware
  • decentralization
[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm doing my part by replacing the aging PCs of my close family with Mini PCs running Linux.

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Fuck that shit. Switch to Linux.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I demand you give me control of your entire life, you can trust me.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

IMHO this is no different than Neuralink. My computers do a great deal of my thinking for me. That's why FOSS is so important.

[–] RedRibbonArmy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 19 hours ago

Imagine the tracking and monitoring of activity they could do. Might as well go voyeur at that point.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Hey Jeff — you know what I think is antiquated and should be relegated to the annals of history?

Billionaires.

Go away and live your life of luxury and shut the fuck up. Don't you have enough fucking money?

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Something something my cold dead hands

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah, we get it, Bezos. You want us to shove more and more money down your throat.

Reading the article, the analogy with an own generator and the power grid kind of makes sense at first... until you also make an analogy with broadcast and cable TV for example - you don't get to choose what's on, and in the latter case you're practically paying for ads and some programming in between. So... how about no.

My fear is that those shortages (artificial or not) might at one point really drive us in a different direction. My only option for now is to vote with my wallet and use my stuff for as long as practically feasible.

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[–] daannii@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

That's Nvidia's whole game plan. Subscription to use their hardware. Limits on hours of gaming. Pay to play more hours.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Techno-feudalism, ladies and gentlemen.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

That's like an EU member purchasing the F-35 under Krasnov. Yep, fuck that shit.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

Make no mistake, the oligarchs see the personal computer as a 40-year-old experiment that has failed, or needs to fail. They want their mainframes and CPU/hr billing back. Server hosting for enterprise uses has already gone this way for the most part. Small consumers are next.

[–] MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This is actually terrifying. Switching to Linux will help us for a while, and the community can take us a long way, but eventually the hardware in physical PCs won't be able to perform basic functions. Maybe it's because cloud PCs use vastly more power and web designers inefficiently update to a web 4.0 that won't be accessible on older hardware -- this has happened before. Or it'll be because the cloud PCs have access to Wi-Fi cards or a new technology entirely to connect that physical hardware won't have access to -- already a standard practice with cell phones' arbitrary gsm phaseouts.

A phaseout of physical hardware would also entail a phaseout of physical accessories, so you can't data-horde your way out of this one unless, maybe, you invested in the now-rare M-Disc format and the drives that make them work. You can buy external offline storage for a while, but eventually it'll all get bought up on the used market or otherwise fail in 5-10 years after the last hard drives get made for consumers. Eventually you will lose all your files and have no way to back them up. No Jellyfin server for movies you legally ripped, no GOG installers for games you legally bought, no music library or ebooks either, they'll all be gone, stolen, so you buy it all over again in perpetuity.

Our only hope, really, is small businesses continuing to build physical PCs with equal power as the cloud devices. But would parts manufacturers let them? The current situation with data centers, SDDs, and RAM shows that parts manufacturers are increasingly only interested in selling to other large businesses. Consumers can't boycott that.

I fully expect to be unable to access my bank or make appointments or get meaningful employment if I don't switch over in 10 to 20 years.

[–] RalfWausE@feddit.org 10 points 21 hours ago

Why should we need "equal power" to some hypothetical "cloud pc"? We did video cutting, 3D rendering, webbrowsing, videochatting and so on in the late 90s with PCs whose CPU speeds where measured in Mhz not Ghz... with the PCs build in the last ~15 years i really, really see no danger of running out of useable devices within my lifetime (i am slightly over 40 now).

If there will be some time in the future when its only possible to get "meaningful employment" or "make appointments" using some cloud based shitstain i will happily spend my last days doing my part in helping to burn down this dystopic society.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This is why tn EU needs to invest all into developing a RISC-V hardware chain asap. Proprietary CPUs is the ultimate chain and shackles.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

We also will need a GPU with the same openness. If only Mali wasn't sold off to ARM.

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago
[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Sure, we've all seen how the de-centralized internet became centralized around a few big-tech and what that does for availability. When he turns off the cloud-pc I've got nothing, and all I can do about it is ...... also nothing. So if my data isn't on my hardware at a location I can access 24/7 it really isn't my data!!

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

In a sense he’s late. A lot of people already have - phones and tablets and chromebooks.

Millions of people simply do not own a traditional computer.

The rest of us, well, cold dead hands and all that.

[–] Enzy@feddit.nu 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Boosteroid? Yes, it's great.

Amazon Luna? No, it's a joke.

As for renting a whole machine, unnecessary unless you need a server.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 224 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (40 children)

We went from mass surveillance to hardware confiscation real quick.

These companies are so large that they don’t need the consumer market anymore. The consumer is now the competition. They can essentially purchase the entire planet’s output of computing hardware years in advance to force us out of the market and lease it back to us at inflated rates. Then, they turn all that tensor compute against us to make everyone’s life a living digital surveillance hell.

Forget Internet freedom, computational liberty is now at risk. Who needs all that expensive legal and technological architecture to steal your data, report on you to the government, and enforce DRM when they control bare metal access to your rented corporate cloud hardware because consumer PC equipment is too astronomically expensive to afford for the average person?

We need to elevate the prosecution of anti-trust to the level of religious inquisition, and burn these companies at the stake. They’re using AI to literally enslave humanity, and it’s working.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 269 points 1 day ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (30 children)

What a fucking joke that would be on US American networks.

We are ranked like 30th in the world for bandwidth. No fiber dropped to the curb but the billionaires. And shit slow 20th century wireless speeds with technical acumen that we see today in Verizon's ongoing 8 hour outage.

Bezos is so out of touch it is clown-like and stupid.

They want a data center heavy world but have no fucking pipeline to get data in and out for the rest of us.

What a human dildo.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

To be clear, fiber is missing in many places, but it's not just for billionaires. I have it and I live in a very small, very insignificant town.

I used to live in San Diego, in the middle of a very dense section of the city, though... And zero fiber options were there. I was paying $80 a month for 400 down and 15 up. So embarrassing...

I get 1gbit up and down now for $40 a month.

So, it's bullshit, and I agree with you. But fiber does exist. I don't have any idea why some areas get it, and others don't, but in San Diego the issue was non-compete agreements between ISP's.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 179 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Bezos is so out of touch it is stupid.

Is he out of touch or has he just recognized that 50% of the economic activity is already from the top 10% of the population?

I get the feeling the wealthy have just written off the bottom 90% of society and don't actually give a flying fuck if anything works for us or not. He knows his core sales will go to people who do have fiber at their doorstep.

Maybe we're the ones out of touch thinking they plan on having a place for us in this world at all.

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[–] arc99@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Sometimes renting from the cloud is a perfectly acceptable solution. However companies leap to using AWS and similar cloud solutions WAY more than necessary or advisable. It is easy to rack up thousands in bills outstripping the costs of buying some hardware and slapping the software onto it. The cloud can scale and do a bunch of cool things but much of the time companies don't need it, or the complexity it brings. There is also the small matter of data sovereignty - if I were a company using the cloud I would be extremely wary of one which is operating outside of my legal jurisdiction and for governments it just a flat out bad idea.

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 day ago (5 children)

i will never in my life get any subscription to anything, that doesnt have to be a subscription.

so far i'm fine with:

internet connection and my phone number

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[–] sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Better yet, over Jeff Bezos' dead body.

[–] sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io 3 points 15 hours ago

Sure thing.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago

yeah you know what i always thought hey this PC cost me a lot, i wish I could keep paying for it indefinitely.

How he thinks he can make more billions by forcing yet another subscription model that takes ownership away from individuals.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you want to be financially free, have no debt. Pay off any loans, dont have subscriptions. Make your monthly costs to be as low as possible.

That is freedom but its the opposite of what is advertised.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll own nothing and you'll be happy?

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