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Though this is all motivated by capitalistic expansion, it's also worth noting that liberals have been trying to eliminate the dissent facilitated through online activism and information campaigns for a few years now. Ownership over our PCs means that there can always be an internet operated and monitored by us.
Step 1: Raise sales prices artificially
Step 2: Create affordable alternatives to rent.
Step 3: Wait until enough people claim that its cheaper and more comfortable to just rent.
Step 4: Wait until maket is destroyed.
Step 6: Raise prices.
"You will own nothing and you will be happy"
- Blackstone
Blackstone* They're the ones doing this to the single family home market. They get far less attention than BlackRock, but pull far shadier shit.
Corrected.
There is no cloud, just someone else computer.
Cloud is just a fancy word for giving up your freedoms. You rely on some greedy corporation and for what? What would the benefit even be?
I quite like that I can access my D&D character sheets or my CV through iCloud. I like that if my phone suddenly exploded my stuff is backed-up. I like that Steam has cloud saves on top of local ones. That is about where it ends, though. The idea of renting a computer, especially from these goons, is completely ridiculous and I hope people don’t validate it just so they can play expensive games(cheaper games needing less intense hardware exist and are often really, really good).
So, there are clear benefits but you’re right that after a point it’s just not worth it. I’d rather fuck around with emailing myself copies of things than let the entire tech world take over our lives like this.
Murica is a deranged shithole. Linux is our only way out of this. To all hardware manifacturers: Build your goddamn drivers for it and free us!
~cry in the capitalist vacuum...
Well chucklefuck you need a basic PC to act as the client. You know what kind of computer most people have? A shitty PC good enough to be the fuckin client. Why would they want to pay for a shitty pc to rent another one when they can just use the fucking shitty PC they bought at walmart for 300 for 8 fuckin years like they do now? That is $3 a month amortized beat that bitch.
They will sell it like streaming services or printers and ink. The first Amazon PC is free, then the subscription price and amount of ads go up. Eventually people will stick because all their files are there, and their Amazon PC does not support mass storage devices like USB sticks to download all of their work.
The first Amazon PC is free
Whoa lets not go too far off the crazy cliff now.
Everything a subscription. You'll own nothing and like it!
And, people, I can't stress this enough, FUCK JEFF BEZOS!
How about fuck you Jeff.
You'll never see me renting a cloud pc bitch
Internet and access to servers is the first thing that govts turn off when they get uppity.
Seems like a fatal risk to have online only services.
Seems like a fatal risk to have online only services.
Maybe that's the whole idea. I mean, think about it, you know how killing Section 230 would kill online freedom, right? Someone probably thought, 'Why kill Section 230 when we can go a step further and consolidate general-purpose computing to the cloud, and then have a centralized kill switch we can flip by intentionally blacking out web access for the entire country, leaving everyone ultimately helpless and under our grip?'
Weird. You would think that the “genius” would know that the very AI and Quantum computing his organization and other Billionaires are building out, is going to undermine anything of value that is Centralized. Really proof his genius is how to exploit others and not really the reality we are finding ourselves in. I am LOL inside as the shift back to decentralized services will be a bloodbath for Centralized anything.
It's... literally the opposite. The giant AI models with trillions of parameters are not something you can run without spending many thousands of dollars, and quantum computers cost millions. These are definitely not services that are going to fall into the hands of everyday people. At best you get small AI models.
Why in the fuck did we move away from mainframes and dumb terminals in the first place, Bozes? Now back to that, but... cloud based, and we pay you to fuckin own everything? Get bent!
I love how the author keeps bringing up how expensive it would be to implement a system of cloud computing rental because no one would pay the amount it would require to make such a thing profitable. But we're talking about Jeff bezos here who took billions of dollars worth of loss for over 10 years before making Amazon the profit machine that it is now. Simply by making things cheaper for a long period of time until the customer base eas so used to the model that they could picture doing it any other way and their competition went out of business. I can totally foresee them doing this exact thing with cloud computing. Make it really cheap get people hooked where they have gotten rid of all of their in person computers and then, once access to home computing is either prohibitively expensive or impossible to do because parts are no longer available or otherwise impossible for people to switch away, jack up the price and make it profitable by squeezing every dime out of the average consumer.
This was also, by the way, Netflix's strategy as well as Spotify and all the other cloud-based services that people are "addicted to". Take billions and loss to get people used to your service and not consider any alternative. Then once you have a captive audience shoot that price to the Moon.
I'll give up computers entirely before I rent one from you greedy pricks.
Genuenly I refuse to use cloud PCs, I don't give a fuck how "cheap" they are or how "convenient" they are I ain't using it. If there is still hardware being produced that works with Linux I'm buying it, if no hardware exists I'm gonna keep using my old hardware until new hardware that does support Linux comes out.
The only thing that's gonna be replaced is capitalism and by extension the capitalist class.
Cheap computer (I'm Canadian so let's say these are maple bucks) say $500, what's a rental $30 a month, so 16ish months before it's paid off.
I ran a media PC off a $300 computer for years (I can't recall exactly least 2 maybe 3). If you need more you probably don't need a cloud one, if you get a cloud one it's cheaper to buy a cheap computer every 2 years.
It may make a sense to some but I enjoy having my nas backup and separate media PC. Also if Amazon goes down you can't even access the calculator, least with no Internet there are options at home.
"You will own nothing and LIKE IT!"
Yeah go screw yourself Tech weirdo's. You could help us, instead you just bleed us dry for profits.
Imagine the unparalleled censorship when the far-right tech elites decide what you can do on "your" computer.
Reverse piracy; "Design and store your copyrightable and patentable ideas in our AI incubators!"
As @TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com stated. This would never work in the US without major overhaul to existing infastructure. I'm rocking a 32/32 Mbps atm. My parents? they get 5. I have to enable steam to limit itself to 512kb/s download or I will take down their network as a whole and if anyone is using youtube or netflix it has to be a 240p or it starts to granulate. Remind me how a cloud based PC is going to work in this state.
Easy, they will just be locked out of having access to computing, that way they can only get their news and information from right-wing AM talk radio.
I would rather never touch a computer again than rent one.
Shit like this is why I'm glad I'm almost dead.
Yeah bud, maybe if you get just a little more money, you'll finally be complete. Just a little more money....
This is stupid. I will never rent a computer mainframe.
Good luck with that.
Signed,
A person who has recently started pulling all their files from cloud storage like Google Drive and Dropbox
The very idea of simply owning a screen, keyboard, and mouse, and using Windows remotely via a subscription will likely send shivers down many of your spines — but you have to consider the trends here.
You need at minimum an ethernet or wifi adapter and a processor and a GPU to decode video and push pixels to the screen. You need effectively a local PC to rent a remote PC
Phones? Tablets? There's your local PC right there. I don't condone it, but I'm pretty sure that's what Bezos is threatening to make happen; instead of having a local PC you own, you'll access everything from your phone in a way that it can be revoked on a whim.
Unsurprising that capitalists want to seize all the means of computation for themselves.
"Hopes", more like will be doing a bunch of anti-competitive bullshit to ensure that this is your only option.
So, these idiots didn't learn their lesson the first time with the colossal flop that was Stadia and now they want to convince us that, this time for sure, we really don't want to own our own hardware and cloud computing is the future?
These guys should not be getting a single bent penny for convincing people to switch over to cloud computing when their AI slop machines are responsible for the scarcity that is causing hardware prices to be completely uneconomical.
if they keep pushing it, eventually the younger generation will just comply.
we need to continue to educate the new generations that the rich/CEO/tech freaks like bozo cannot be trusted, they lie, and their goal is to make us own nothing and pay for it.
make it clear what their true goal is. media cannot be trusted to assist in this. citizens of the world must be loud at every moment we can be.
Perfect! And after that we can rent our phones from the cloud too. Maybe our electric cars after that?