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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 50 minutes ago

No thanks, Nazi.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

It's a weird move because Tesla was receiving nearly 7 years of $99/month up front if people gave it to them, while being as slow as they want in reaching their promises. So, either they are worried that they will be forced to give refunds for underwhelming service, or they are planning massive monthly fee increases. It's probably the latter to their credit. Robotaxi fee would be a normal high fee.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

I feel so dumb over here having paid off my current car and giving no subscription money to anyone to use all the features of my car. I'm a fool!

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 4 hours ago

Good maybe people will stop using it then. What am I saying they bought a Tesla of course they're going to keep using it.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 hours ago

You have got to be a goddamn moron to buy a Tesla.

[–] Gathorall@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Can you opt to pay imaginary money for it since it is an imaginary feature?

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

So if your subscription runs out while driving does the Tesla just stop on the road or does it immediately drive back to the dealership till you pay it?

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Who is using self-driving mode? And why? When you add price of a self-driving car + (now) subscription, it is cheaper to use some public transport, bus/train/taxi/uber/..

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 64 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone who still thinks he's a genius should be mocked mercilessly.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 15 hours ago

To be fair, he's a genius in continuesly scamming people without losing their faith in him. Although it's less geniusness and more stupidity of other people. Yeah he's not a genius, he's a scammer. Not even an artist at it.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 15 points 15 hours ago

🤣🤣🤣

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Wasn't it already? Fucking Tesla is so damn confusing on how the hell this shit works. Every 2 months it changes, price changes, how the use it changes, and if they even get it. God I'm so glad I wouldn't ever buy one of those shit boxes.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I was in my friend's Tesla the other day, and she couldn't figure out which button to push to get the glove box open. There is no handle. Just a screen with a GUI that has menus with a glove box button.

I was like wtf. I'm so pissed about my old car with too many buttons for the air conditioner. That was the most infuriating looking car I've ever seen. Guess she got it before the Nazi salute for tax write off.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago

Unfortunately that's not exclusive to Tesla.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 16 hours ago

Then first create the full self driving that you have lied about already existing for the past decade

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

$99 dollars a month to kill yourself. Shit, I can commit suicide for free.

[–] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 116 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I would think they first would have to actually release the feature.

[–] hummingbird@lemmy.world 37 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently we live in a reality in which you don't need to have a product in order make it shit anymore.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Star citizen is very playable right now, which is more than can be said for the full self driving

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, it is an incredible vitual storefront. So many ways to spend money.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

yeah the self driving has not been approved anywhere yet. this is "supervised" only

this just the first step of burying the failure

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And I would think that before releasing the feature they'd have to get it to stop constantly crashibg cars into large stationary objects.

It's probably vibe-coded.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You misunderstand. The subscription is to get permission to drive your own car. Self driving slop is going to be the default.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

Surely you jest.

[–] amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago

You need to sign up for a 3 year subscription to be put on the waiting list for the product that will be ready in 5 years after you subscribed. If you don't renew after the first 3 years you lose your spot and need to reapply.

[–] tonywu@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago

Tesla: subscribe to your own demise.

[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Surprised it didn't happen sooner.

And on that note, I would absolutely download a car.

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 22 points 21 hours ago

Well, I wouldn't download this car.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago

Didn't need another reason not to buy a Tesla but I've got one.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Kinda a crazy move considering that they were charging 8k for "fsd" before, and are moving to a monthly subscription of a hundred bucks a month.

You would have to own your Tesla for six and a half years for them to make the same return. My guess is that the hundred dollars a month is just the initial price which will drastically inflate over time. That or they are just going to raise prices by 8k and still charge you a subscription cost anyways....

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

At one point they were charging $15k for it, and Elmo was claiming it would go to $100k in its final form. You know, when it actually fucking worked. Which it never will.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

They seem to be dropping the price until they find a price point where a decent percentage of their users will actually pay for the service.

If the system was genuinely self driving, as in the vehicle could run unattended, it would be worth having.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago

I bought it for my Tesla (back when I had it) for $2500. Shitty decision, but I believed the hype. Can’t wait to get my $5 check from the class action suit.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 18 hours ago

Except for they don't have the hardware to do that reliably since musk goes for cheapest parts possible and removes redundancy

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or you get more people buying in. 8k up front looks a lot different than a couple hundred a month.

[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd rather just pay it once and have it.

Like video games. Just let me pay money for the whole game.

[–] trougnouf@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Rational people don't buy Teslas.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

the problem is it's non-transferrable, so if you want to sell the car (or totaled it) before ~6 years you would lose money compared to paying $100/month.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't the car sell for more because of the extra features?

[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

The feature is tied to the account, not the car 💡

[–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 7 hours ago

What? Purchasing a premium package for your car vanishes when it transfers to a new owner?

If you buy a premium trim, it doesn't vanish if you resell the car.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 hours ago

Oh that's just another nail in the coffin of me EVER buying a Tesla

If it was transferable like idk, any other option you get on your car, the 8k price tag could at least be offset by like 20-50% by the car having better value when selling it on. This way it's just... Wtf. Imagine paying 8k and then selling the car after a year and the next person has to pay 8k too.

100 bucks a month starting to seem reasonable in comparison indeed

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, I suspect nobody was buying the feature. They may increase the price if they get it to truly work, but I suspect a hundred odd a month is what most people are willing to pay.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 9 points 21 hours ago

Yes, I suspect this is a chas flow thing. Their sales are dropping. The feature is there, sonit costs nothing to give it. See if they can milk a few dollars. Even if it makes less money on the long term, it might stop the share price crashing in the medium or short term.

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 6 points 21 hours ago

Poor middle class people will start taking out car loans to buy Tesla. Just like the iPhone phenomena

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago

i love taking a shit

[–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz -3 points 19 hours ago

Kind of makes sense. If I had a Tesla, I might consider grabbing it for a month if I were going on a road trip to reduce the driving load.

It also lets people test it every once in a while to see if it actually works. Based on a ride I had in one a few months ago, it still has quite a bit to go.

I would be most concerned about them increasing prices over time. $100/month isn't too bad, but I'm sure it will increase to well over double that over the next few years.