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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 98 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

The US still looking weird by calling Germany “Germany.”

[–] missingno@fedia.io 61 points 2 weeks ago

About as weird as calling Nihon "Japan".

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Tbf a good chunk of Europe calls it "land of people that can't speak" basically

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They're clearly thinking of the Dutch.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

They can speak, they just act like they can't in front of foreigners. I am learning "Dutch" and am 100% convinced this whole language is a hoax

[–] agavaa@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Cause they can't!1!

But for real, for those who are curious: the border between Germany and Poland is effectively the border between western and eastern Europe. So to Slav people Germans lived right over there, and yet spoke something incomprehensible; so we called them "mute" (in Poland at least). If I can't understand you you are mute to me, basically. And the word for "Germans" is the same as for "Germany", so we call the country itself mutes 😅

[–] Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Literally it's more like "non-speakers", though, isn't it? Nie + mowić = Not + to speak.

So, maybe in contemporary Polish the word has been polished to mean "mute", but could be that they were "those damn non-speakers [of our Polish] across that river-thing!"

[–] agavaa@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, the "mówić" part is not present, the root of the word is more similar to "niemy", meaning "mute"; the Polish word comes from "non-speaker", as in "not speaking at all". but that's just speculation on my part, I'm no linguist or etymologist 🤷‍♀️

[–] Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus 2 points 6 days ago

At least Wiktionary completely agrees with you!

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For fun with words:

  • Niemcy - polish for Germans
  • Niemcy - polish for Germany
  • Niemy - polish for mute
  • Jadę do Niemiec - "I am riding to Germany"
  • Jadę z niemcami - "I am riding with germans"
  • Jadę z niemcem - "I am riding with a german"
  • Jadę z Niemczech - "I am riding from Germany"
  • Jadę z niemym - "I am riding with a mute"

I wonder how confusing these are for people not speaking polish xD

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Nemecko
Nemý

Never realized that.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Still better than Rakousko/Rakúsko. Czech and Slovak are the only languages where the word for Austria does not originate from "Österreich" but from Ratgoz, a single proto-Austrian guy's name.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah right? When it hit me I was like hmmm

[–] ceiphas@feddit.org 28 points 2 weeks ago

Du meinst Deutschland.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

And what about the Romance languages. They call Germany “Land of the Alemanni”, they called an entire country full of different tribes after a single Germanic tribe that lived near the French/Italian border. It’s like calling the entire country of the Netherlands Amsterdam.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's like calling the entire country of the Netherlands Holland. Holland(ia?) is part of the Netherlands which gave the name of the country in a bunch of languages.

This is weird, by the way, I just wrote about the exact same thing not too long ago.

[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 6 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I can open your link, but as someone who's Dutch, the way this all works in English is so absurd. Here we call Germany "Duitsland" and they speak "Duits". This is quite similar to what they say themselves, "Deutschland" and "Deutsch". We call our country "Nederland" and our language "Nederlands". This is again similar in German.

Then why is English "Germany", "German" and "Holland"/"The Netherlands" and "Dutch". It's so silly. There are of course historic reasons, but can't we all just collectively change it?

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Face it, even the Anglophones know what you speak is simply Drunk German. :P

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

as someone who’s Dutch, the way this all works in English is so absurd

Yeah but don't you say Japan instead of Nihon/Nippon? Every language does this to a certain extent.

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[–] mech@feddit.org 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The weirdest ones are the Finns, calling Germany Saksa.
I'm German and I feel more at home when I'm in Finland than in Sachsen.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 8 points 2 weeks ago

Finnish Saksa is a reference to the Saxon tribe from Old Saxon in Northern Germany, not the current Sachsen.

[–] First_Thunder@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What about the Portuguese! ALEMANHA for Germany

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In Grench it’s Allemagne. The Alemanni were a german tribe at the rhine.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

In Grench

Is that the Grinch's native language?

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

No, its the French-Greek hybrid they speak in Freece

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[–] remon@ani.social 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not any weirder than any other English speaking country.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

Or any country really. I'd be curious to see if a chart of languages ranked on how many countries' endonyms are also the same word in that language. But there's definitely no language that doesn't have exonyms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endonym_and_exonym

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

English speakers call Deutschland Germany, don't give us all the credit here. And it's called that cause the UK hated keeping track of what y'all were calling yourselves, so they chose bigotry instead (a common theme for England). The rest of us usually don't know the history and just have a word with no context as to why it is that way.

For those Americans who don't understand, calling it Germany is like calling First Nation land "Indialand" because "how can anyone keep track of what they call it? It's always changing!"

[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Actually, it was the Romans who came up with the term "Germani" for the various tribes at the nortthern end of the world. The anglo-saxons being one of them.

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[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why put that on the US? We just carried on calling it what the English did.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

To spur discussion, mostly

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

I constantly mix up sore and sono. 😮‍💨

For more context: They don't just mean the same thing. One is a pronoun and the other is an adjective. Like the difference between the word THAT in the following sentences: "That which is given" vs "Hand me that."

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Just remember that "no" is the particle that indicates possession, so you need to show what it's possessing if you use it.

Sore can be used as a subject or object directly:

それを説明して下さい。
Explain that please.

Compared to:

その話を説明して下さい。
Explain that conversation please.

Using "no" to show possession can be used without indicating the possessed word with regular nouns, but not the kono/sono/ano words.

家のドアは大きい。
The house's door is big.
家のは大きい。
The house's is big.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you for actually talking about the post ;)

I find that when speaking about them in isolation I also have to take a split-second to remember which one is which. But after a bit of practice, when actually forming sentences, you'll develop a feeling for it and using the wrong one will sound wrong to your ears so you won't need to think about it.

[–] dwemthy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

It helps me that 'no' marks possession or relation so 'sono' is like a shortening of 'sore no' and that means something more specific comes after.

[–] PodPerson@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But both of those examples are pronouns?

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think they were just saying that in both sentences "that" has different meanings.

Maybe clearer:

Sore ha ringo desu - that is an apple

Sono ringo wo kaimasu - I'll buy that apple

(ringo is apple)

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was screwing around on Duolingo for a while, trying different languages. Happened upon Russian.

After you get through the alien character set and sounds, it was pretty easy, or so I thought.

There are 16 verb classes There is formal and informal dialect Nouns are gendered.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I happen to be Russian, and yeah. Not the language to learn for funsies.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

Hey, until I got to grammar, it was great!

[–] db2@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago
[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ok but then what about are, ano, aitsu?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

This, that, tentacle monster.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm expecting the last one to mean "anal"

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