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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 18 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I've wrote user instructions and setup guides for my last job to copy paste in for common issues. A ton of people struggle to follow the instructions even with screenshots and big red arrows for each step. I've run a few though analyzers and find targeting a 3rd grade reading level is the max you can do before you get questions about the instructions.
Best bet is screenshot for each tiny step(cropped with the big red arrows) with nothing more complicated than "click here" as text. Just assume the end user can't or won't read.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Same. You can't write more than a 10 words in a sentence before you lose people.

They refuse to read anything that's in a paragraph. each sentence as a bullet points is the best bet and don't you dare make it a compound sentence.

A lot of my job lately is taking product user guides from the product company and dumbing them down even more for my userbase. Some of most difficult staff are the fresh out of undergrads... they are on par or worse than the 60+ year olds. If I gave them a link to microsoft.com tutorials they would freak out because there are 'too many words'.

A decade ago 22 year olds we hired had way better comprehension skills and used to interact with me during orientation/training. Now they just stare blank faced at me and look confused like I'm overwhelming them, and they ask me why I can't just give them a QR code and why they need a password to login to things.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Everything published at or below 6th grade reading level

Americans consume this content almost exclusively

The median reader consumes at or below the 6th grade level

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (14 children)

College kids have never read everything they’re assigned, of course, but this feels different.

I love Vibes Based Reporting.

Twenty years ago, Dames’s classes had no problem engaging in sophisticated discussions of Pride and Prejudice one week and Crime and Punishment the next. Now his students tell him up front that the reading load feels impossible. It’s not just the frenetic pace; they struggle to attend to small details while keeping track of the overall plot.

As someone who was in college twenty years ago, I've got to say there's no way in hell I could make it through an entire novel in a week while balancing the rest of my course load. Either I'm reading the Cliff's Notes or I'm not getting it done. I also ran a 15-hour course study in hopes of landing a triple major in four years (bad idea, kids!), but even with a more conservative 12-hour load, imagine this plus 3 other classes making the same demands on your time.

This isn't a new problem. It is, perhaps, a problem that the current generation of students no longer has the cheat-codes to navigate. But doggedly insisting people were housing a 400-page book in a week and retaining it for meaningful discussion? Get fucked, dude. Nobody was actually doing that ever.

If you could come to the table talking about these novels, its because you already read them in High School, not because you consumed them in a week in your hectic freshman year.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 16 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

That was the goal of the Republicans. When US was in the middle of the cold war, schools were pushing STEM because military and industry needed STEM graduates, but the side effect of education is left leaning voters. So since the 60s, the US education system has degraded to the point that college sports scholarship grads can be illiterate.

So the gap in tech was filled in with H1b Visa people trained at proper universities.

in 2025, Harvard students don't even attend lectures. They still get As because they paid for As.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The system was degraded because of the local tax revolts in the 1970s, which were perpetuated by Democrats and Republicans alike. The citizenry decided they no longer wanted to pay property taxes and education funding collapsed in many states. It was also a consequence of white flight, and other social changes in the 1970s in response to the civil rights victories.

Republicans capitalized on it in the 1980s and made it a national issue and the voters loved it. People loved Reagan, he was incredibly popular and crushed Mondale winning every state expect for MN.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_United_States_presidential_election

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Could we get an archive link? That article is pay walled.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They also think below 6th grade levels. People in this country are dumb as shit.

[–] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

That's why it is called reading comprehension. That last word is usually glossed over but is the important part of the two. Almost anyone beyond second grade can read the words in a text; comprehension and manipulation though....

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I remember reaching high school and MANY students reading out loud at the level I'd expect an early grade schooler to. Struggling with uncomplicated words. It was honestly pretty cringy.

Can't say I didn't see this coming.

Suddenly a felon rapist pedophile insurrectionist being our leader makes a lot of sense.

That's a lot of numbers without any citations. I mean, it feels right. But please take the minute to add your sources.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

Not to rain on the anti-US sentiment here, but this isn't far off from most other western/developed/colonial/whatever (aka members of OECD) countries. I don't know what study they're talking about in the article, since they never cite their source, but here's the results from a similar survey from 2013 (PIAAC study).

In terms of literacy, only 6/24 countries are reading at Level 3 (roughly equivalent to what other studies describe as "above a 6th grade level", it does not track 1:1 since again I don't know which study they're using initially) and the remainder are reading at Level 2 (I feel comfortable describing it as "at or below a 6th grade reading level" based off the criteria used in other studies).

The US for sure has an education problem, but it's not as dire as this article makes it sound. In the above PIAAC study, the difference in literacy is only ~20% between the top score of 296.2 (Japan) and the bottom of 250.5 (Italy), and at 269.8 (USA) is only ~10% behind Japan in terms of mean score. We should absolutely be doing better, we're among the worst for non-starters and < Level 1 (illiterate and partially illiterate respectively), but when looking at the values in context we're not really doing all that egregiously compared to other OECD countries.

(edit: spelling)

A nerdy side note:

I question the relevancy of the < Level 1 statistics, as the controls for partial literacy do not appear to have been robust for non-native speakers of the survey languages. This may have been by design, but given the high rate of invalidation due to language incompatibilities seen in other studies, I am hesitant to draw conclusions from that value without a clearer understanding of the methodology. Partial literacy due to language incompatibility is extremely easy to mask for basic questions, but imho should differentiated better from partial literacy among native speakers.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I'm surprised that 46% can read above it.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

And vote at a 5 yr old level.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

This is all a cultural issue. Little kids are read to less often by their parents and they're left with an iPad or iPhone to shut them up when they're upset. The moment they get hooked on the dopamine of colorful YouTube videos like Cocomelon and pay to win games their brains simply seek out those cheap hypnotic thrills like a geriatric in front of a slot machine. Of course a plain static book won't give them the stimulation they seek, especially when they're not fully literate yet to appreciate it.

This problem compounds itself later on in school when they either refuse to pay attention at all in class or throw tantrums because for the first time in their lives they're forced to go without their drug of choice for longer than a few hours. A lot of this damage is could've been prevented by their parents had they the discipline to not use an addictive digital pacifier at a critical age.

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