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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 month ago

Anyone else old enough to remember a couple of years ago when their media circus was claiming that FEMA was going to put people in camps, were abducting legal citizens and misappropriating funds?

[–] CubitOom 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Honest question... If I take out my 12 ga and load it with bird shot and then fire when the drone crosses my property line. Would I be arrested for interference of federal duty?

What it it were a slingshot? I've taken out a drone before with a cheap slingshot from about 50 yards

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You'll definitely be charged for shooting at any drone, even little Timmy's Christmas present. Expect an extra spanking if it belongs to the feds.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You also don't generally own a lot of the airspace above your property. Discharging a firearm within city limits is also an issue you can expect police for.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I believe you do technically own up to a certain altitude of airspace above your property, however any and all airspace is still under the jurisdiction of the FAA. The big one for the FAA is creating a scenario where something falls from the sky and could cause damage. That's why you can get in deep shit for even shooting at a personal drone with a BB gun, let alone birdshot.

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 3 points 1 month ago

Depending where you live I'd be more worried about firing a gun in the city.

City cops have prosecuted people already for destroying their spy drones though, iirc

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Not if it's within your property/airspace. Also, they sell 22lr birdshot shells. Would be a lot quieter and harder to home in on than a 12ga

[–] CubitOom 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think I own my airspace? Not sure at what height that public airspace starts.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I think you do, to a certain height. It’s probably like 100’ or less and probably varies by location

So if your location has such a law and the drone is over your property below that height maybe you have trespassing claim

[–] bigfish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Officer, I swear I was practicing my fishing cast 🤞

[–] snowdrop@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess it’s time to get into falconry.

[–] CubitOom 1 points 1 month ago

Or skeet shooting

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[–] stupud@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Don't forget to wear a proper anonymous dress

[–] andybytes@programming.dev -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I am so sick of liberals and snarky arse commie turds. Shits getting real. You gonna put all that "theory" into practice? By now you shouldn't need old ass books.... I am living in that reality. A snarky commie and the liberal whats the difference? I think the snark and the libturd are one in the same. I pray for nukes everyday... desperate I am and I know life in the imperial core is no life at all.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Buddy, go take your meds.