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I have never really ever used bash and thought, "Man, I wish my shell was better . . . ". Using ctrl+r to recall past commands, using sudo !! to fix missing permissions and writing small bash scripts all work very well.
That being said, if you use anything else, and you like it, I'm happy for you, but I do wonder, what leads people to other shells? What problems do they have with bash?
i use bash but i also use atuin which makes shell history so much neater. that's about the only convenience i need in a terminal shell.
Oh yay, more tribalism.
Yay? Everybody knows you should use paru! /s
lmfao beautifully executed
Am I out of the loop? what's wrong with zsh?
It's permissively-licensed (as opposed to bash, which is GPLv3). Pushing zsh over bash is part of a larger effort by corporations to marginalize copyleft so they can more easily exploit Free Software at the users' expense. Don't fall for it!
fish, the main modern alternative to zsh + oh-my-zsh, is mostly GPLv2, and you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU GPL as published by the Free Software Foundation.
Same as systemd, PipeWire, Wayland, Flatpak... basically, it's new therefore it is bad.
Itβs stinky and smelly and smells bad.
Usually I just use bash it's definitely good enough. I've tried zsh and fish, I definitely prefer fish
I never tried anything other than bash tbh. Not sure if i should. I never really looked into what i might be missing out on with a different shell. Bash just works so i never felt like messing around with it.
I switched from bash to zsh a while ago, mostly just for shits and giggles. I really can't see any reason to form a strong opinion on it one way or the other.
Bash is copyleft (GPLv3). Zsh is permissively-licensed.
Apple, for instance, switched from bash to zsh when the GPL version upgraded because they wanted to withhold those rights from their users.
Zsh should be considered harmful as a tool of corporate encroachment and subjugation of Free Software.
Calm down RMS, you're going to have another episode.
His episodes are just him being right over and over and us refusing to listen
He is always right.
Except for that one time.
He should be awarded a prize for services to womensβ horticulture, given the number of women at MIT who filled their offices with houseplants just to keep him away.
Well and also eating his own feet
Linux noob here. Can you explain please why Iβd use a different terminal than what my distro provides (bash)?
I would really recommend you try fish.
It has a lot of nice autocomplete features and handles functions much better than bash. It has a very sensible autoconfig so you can just install and try it.
Zsh can be configured in quite a lot of ways. It's default config is quite similar to bash.
What does it autocomplete? Filenames? Bash can do that too, right? I just hit the tab key and itβs written there.
And with functions you mean in scripts? How does it handle functions better?
Autocompletions in fish also take history into account, which saves you a lot of typing in the long run.
Fish shell script is much more sensibly constructed than bash so it's just much easier to write a script in fish.
Thank you for explaining
Fish was amazing when I first discovered it, but I found it had too many problems for me to effectively use it. Having to adapt existing bash/zsh scripts was a major problem for me.
So I went the other way around and managed to get all of the Fish features I wanted working under zsh using atuin, starship, and other misc. oh-my-zsh plugins to fill the gaps.
Best part: I used a git-controlled home-manager setup to do it so I can activate my entire environment on a fresh machine/server in minutes after I clone it.
Features and default settings, but its really just about preference. They are all good at what they do.
Also im only saying this because it confused me for so long, but shell and terminal are different parts of the same thing. Bash is your shell, its the backend that runs everything you type into your terminal. My computer for example uses my kitty terminal which communicates in bash. You can change both the shell and terminal. Zsh is another shell, so it would change the "shell language" you use to communicate with your terminal.
I use zsh and it's fine, I use it with starship, zsh-syntax-highlighting and zsh-autosuggestions
bait used to be believable
I use whatever my OS came with.
I don't mind /bin/zsh.
Now Oh My Zsh! on the other hand can die in a hole.
