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Organisers clarify award ‘cannot be revoked, shared or transferred’ after Venezuelan opposition leader’s comments

The organisers of the Nobel peace prize have said it “cannot be revoked, shared or transferred” after Venezuela’s opposition leader, María Corina Machado, said she wanted to give her award to Donald Trump.

When Machado was named Nobel laureate in October, it was seen as a snub by the White House, despite Machado rushing to dedicate the prize to the US president and his “decisive support of our cause”.

Trump has made no secret of his strongly held desire to be awarded the Nobel peace prize, the winner of which is selected by an independent five-person committee in Oslo.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I don't see what's the problem with that.

It's not as if, after giving one to Kissinger, the nobel peace prize is anything more than a bitch to political propaganda.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago

The fact that she offered to share a Peace Prize with that fucking crybaby should earn her a second Peace Prize.

[–] falcon_1683@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago

I hate this bitch.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Remember me again how trump getting the noble peace prize fixes the economy, gets ICE agents off our streets, ends the genocide in Gaza, ends the war in Ukraine, lowers the cost of fuel, food, housing, gets the Epstein files released in full? Oh yea that’s right it doesn’t.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

That request from Trump was a "test of spine".

Now that he made sure she has none, she will be chewed with the rest.

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 53 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Imagine wanting to become president so bad, you promise to give your Nobel prize to the guy who just invaded your country, in the hopes that he will stage a coup for you, but then your plans are suddenly foiled because the Nobel prize committee said no, and that's a dealbreaker for Trump's support because he is the most superficial man on the planet. I suppose she can just give him her physical medal, which will make him happy because it's shiney.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I suppose she can just give him her physical medal,

as if that wasn't part of the deal

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 8 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

He will also just claim he is now the Nobel laureate, no matter what the committee says, and some time next year he will make it a huge diplomatic incident when he is not added to some official list of laureates.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yeah, I'm surprised that she actually asked the Nobel Comittee about it - just give Trump the medal and shut up whilst he loudly harps about how he has a Nobel Peace Prize.

It's not as if that guy cares about objective reality or rules (or even has a fully adult mind) - having the shiny token is more than enough for him to go around showing it and saying he has a Nobel Peace Prize.

The most logical option for her is just giving the medal to Trump, telling him he now has a Nobel Peace Prize and letting his infantile mind twist that into him feeling like a Nobel Peace Prize recipient.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago

Yeah the way the media works these days, it doesn't matter what the committee says. If she says she gave it to him and he says he's the new winner, than that's all that most people will ever hear about.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I will give him my Nobel prize too if he stops invading (and threatening to invade) countries and finally stops that one russian invasion. It's really shiny!!

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 35 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They should rescind the award for even suggesting the idea..

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They should rescind the Nobel Peace Prize committee of clowns.

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I guess we all should. Fuck the Nobel Peace Prize committee, and also fuck FIFA. We need a new peace prize with blackjack and hookers.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 19 points 18 hours ago

To the Norwegian Nobel Committee

I hereby humbly suggest that the Peace Prize for 1939 is awarded the German Chancellor and Führer Adolf Hitler, a man, who in the opinion of millions of people, is a man who more than anyone in the world has deserved this highly respected reward. Authentic documents reveal that in September 1938 world peace was in great danger; it was only a matter of hours before a new European war could break out. The man who during this dangerous time saved our part of the world from this terrible catastrophe was without no doubt the great leader of the German people. In the critical moment he voluntarily did not let weapons speak although he had the power to start a world war.

By his glowing love for peace, earlier documented in his famous book Mein Kampf – next to the Bible perhaps the best and most popular piece of literature in the world - together with his peaceful achievement – the annexation of Austria-Adolf Hitler has avoided the use of force by freeing his countrymen in Sudetenland and making his fatherland big and powerful. Probably Hitler will, if unmolested and left in peace by war mongers, pacify Europe and possibly the whole world.

Sadly there still are a great number of people who fail to see the greatness in Adolf Hitler´s struggle for peace. Based on this fact I would not have found the time right to nominate Hitler as a candidate to the Nobel Peace Prize had it not been for a number of Swedish parliamentarians who have nominated another candidate, namely the British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain. This nomination seems to be poorly thought. Although it is true that Chamberlain through his generous understanding of Hitler´s struggle for pacification has contributed to the saving of world peace, the last decision was Hitler´s and not Chamberlains! Hitler and no one else is first and foremost to be thanked for the peace which still prevails in the greater part of Europe; and this man is also the hope for peace in the future.

As Chamberlains obviously can claim his share of the peace making, he could possibly have a smaller part of the Peace Prize. But the most correct thing to do is not to put another name beside the name of Adolf Hitler and thereby throwing a shadow on him. Adolf Hitler is by all means the authentic God-given fighter for peace, and millions of people all over the world put their hopes in him as the Prince of Peace on earth.

Stockholm, January 27, 1939

[–] Chaotic_Altruist@lemmy.zip 88 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

"Spineless cunt is denied the opportunity to bend over for immature tyrant" - FTFY

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

It makes sense that one who is spineless would naturally be bent over.

[–] MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

From her perspective it's the correct move. To gain back control of the country a Nobel prize will not be helpful, American support will.

This would get the democratically elected government in charge, instead of Maduros cronies.

If the American president is that easy to bribe, that's a problem for the US. She's just playing by the new rules.

America shouldn't be anywhere near Venezuela, but if you get handed a Deus ex machina, you take it.

[–] Chaotic_Altruist@lemmy.zip 26 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I totally agree that's how it looks for her. It's an example of a prisoners dilemma.

Short term it's best to just make trump happy and try to salvage sanity from the bullshit.

Long term though, she's just validating all the bullshit trump is doing, adding to his power, and telling him that if he screams loud enough he will always eventually get his way. Trump will be a worse person, Venezuela will be a temporary reprieve and then be worse off, and the whole world has a larger mess to clean up.

World would be so much better if people didn't fall prey to prisoners dilemmas and actually made the best long term decision for everyone every time. Might be getting too late to ever see that world tbh.

Bottom line is nobody should be feeding the orange infant.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

More in general, "American support" isn't necessarily a positive thing in the mid or long term, especially in Latin America and even more in the present age when Fascism is normalized in American and Fascists get elected to lead the US.

For her it risks being like a drowning person getting a nose to put around her neck to be pulled out of the water.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 21 hours ago

Except no she doesn't care about Venezuelans if she did she wouldn't cheer on their bombing and blockading and promise to hand over all resources to America.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

it's incredibly shameful how these oposition figures are so quick to give away their country to the Orange Pedo for a shot at the presidency… not a thought about the Venezuelan people

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 16 hours ago

She pretty much conspired with trump from the get-go to remove maduro.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 21 hours ago

Not spineless greedy and imperialist she is not giving in to demands she has long advocated for turning all Venezuelan resources over to American companies.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Eh, I could see it as a reasonable deal from her perspective. If giving Trump a pointless shiny metal disk got him to actually back democratic reform in Venezuela, sure, give him the shiny metal disk. Whatever, it's just a thing.

Unfortunately it wouldn't work, though; Trump never sticks to his deals after he's got what he wanted out of them or when he sees an opportunity to squeeze even more out of you. So might as well keep the shiny metal disk.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, she believes in her cause far more than a shiny metal disk, which if given up the rest of the world will know what happened. Not like she was motivated by it, and it's the only card she really has when dealing with the US military. Certainly not worth calling her a spineless... That.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Her cause is turning over all resources to us companies.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world -3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You really think that would've been her cause had the 2024 election gone a different way?

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 19 hours ago

She's been clear about this for more than a decade now and spent much of the last few years even before 2024 praising Trump, Milei and friends so yes.

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 40 points 23 hours ago

I mean, she doesn’t deserve it either

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

One begins to question how she was awarded the prize in the first place

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 12 points 20 hours ago

She wants capitalists to run Venezuela.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

Just found out and believe me, people are VERY upset that the Nobel Peace Prize is NOT transferable. Amazing. After all the peace, the deals, the HISTORIC calm (tremendous calm, many people are saying THE MOST CALM IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD), they say ‘sorry, rules are rules.’ Meanwhile Obama gets one for showing up. Didn’t even DO ANYTHING! I finished wars, avoided wars, brought about peace very strongly — NO PRIZE. If it were transferable (like common sense says it should be), they’d be sending it over immediately. Very unfair system, very political, very Scandinavian. RIGGED! SAD! I should have a prize for each of the 8 WARS I SOLVED. Thank you for your attention to this matter!!!

-@RealDonaldTrump

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 29 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

... christ, I have no idea if this is legit or not. Maybe... No? Just because he'd have to admit defeat?

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

I don't know. It was going alright, but that Scandinavian burn has got to hurt.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago

massive baby

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

The Nobel committee is a joke

[–] guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Maria, he's not going to grab you by the pussy.

Stop trying to get him to grab you by the pussy.

Guess she's not becoming prez after all.

[–] DisgruntledPelican@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

She should share it with Putin, Trump and Netanyahu, it would be so perfect and accruate.

[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 2 points 20 hours ago

What does Norway have that he can threaten to take? I feel like that’s coming.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Come on. She’s going for the big leagues. She’ll lose her soul, but she’ll be rich, relative to her colleagues.