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[โ€“] termaxima@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Proud imperative stoneager here ๐Ÿฆ

[โ€“] Dhar@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Cavepeople together strong!

[โ€“] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

ocaml and haskell and erlang power like... a shitton of industry production code. If erlang software disappeared, internet dies for a bit until people replace all the broken routers.

[โ€“] Kache@lemmy.zip 1 points 42 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago)

Isn't functional stuff closely related to type theory & type systems in all langs? In that sense, it's prevented whole classes of bugs from ever getting to prod in the first place.

Responsible for 0% of code in production

Best code is no code at all

[โ€“] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

More like mix and match your path lmao.

[โ€“] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 hours ago

I've been shifting around, but never to the OOP boilerplater. I despise Java.

[โ€“] goatinspace@feddit.org 14 points 15 hours ago
[โ€“] freohr@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

Uses neovim with gruvbox theme on arch

Damn, why are you calling me out personally? Though I use it to write python scripts and LaTeX, not rust...

[โ€“] palordrolap@fedia.io 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

history | grep -E '(sed|grep|awk|perl)' | wc -l 107

Dang. That's out of 1000. I need to up my game. Also three of those seds are part of something with a -basedir and don't count.

So yeah, about 10% of my commands are iterating shell pipe things for poops and giggles, I guess.

... and this got me going down the rabbit hole of writing a filter for my history to pull out the first command on the line. This is non-trivial because of potential preceding variable assignments. Most used commands are currently apt and man and ls. I think apt is a Spiders Georg situation because the system is fairly fresh and I keep finding things that I haven't installed yet. Also I went through a patch of trying to parse its output.

... oh, er... unga bunga.

$ history | grep -E '(sed|grep|awk|perl)' | wc -l
50
$ history | wc -l
500

Checks out perfectly.

[โ€“] red_tomato@lemmy.world 117 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The OOP boilerplater is the only one with a job.

[โ€“] rainwall@piefed.social 108 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Imperative stonager works there too. You've just never seen him because he hasen't accepted a meeting invite is 14 years.

[โ€“] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 day ago

You've just never seen him because he hasen't accepted a meeting invite is 14 years.

And counting!

[โ€“] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like the functional parts of Cโ™ฏ, though.

[โ€“] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This. I've been writing some game mods in it recently and LINQ is... pretty nice. switch expressions, too.

This is coming from a dude formerly from the "OOP Boilerplater" camp, though, so maybe I just have low standards.

[โ€“] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

LINQ is... pretty nice.

Seriously. Want monads? LINQ is monads!

[โ€“] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 4 points 14 hours ago

"Wanna see me turn a dozen lines of imperative code into a single expression?"

"Wanna see me do it again?"

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[โ€“] ArrowMax@feddit.org 12 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Just finished an assignment for uni: Memory safety in Rust: Mechanisms and limits - a comparison to C/C++.

Fuck.

Great overview of Rust's weaknesses and strengths:

Li et al. 2024 Rust for Linux: Understanding the Security Impact of Rust in the Linux Kernel

[โ€“] passepartout@feddit.org 4 points 16 hours ago

Rust introduces some pretty awesome concepts, but I see why it might be controversial to some. I (sadly) have no use case for it though.

[โ€“] Atlas_@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] squaresinger@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Found the esoteric programmer!

[โ€“] PokerChips@programming.dev 35 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like the author is a MacBook user.

[โ€“] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

Imperative stoneagers getting an old MacBook from somewhere and going "huh, I guess its UNIX" is probably true though

[โ€“] itkovian@lemmy.world 21 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I don't belong to any of the above. Am I even a programmer at this point?

[โ€“] marcos@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I belong to all of them. Same question.

[โ€“] sukhmel@programming.dev 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You've transcended programming

[โ€“] itkovian@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

To being a coder?

[โ€“] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago

Vim is life. And use good variable names.

[โ€“] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 6 points 18 hours ago

That's such a way to dismiss the theory and academia

[โ€“] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was triggered at every panel, it's unacceptable!

[โ€“] passepartout@feddit.org 28 points 1 day ago

I hope no one got left unoffended

[โ€“] andioop@programming.dev 18 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

OOP boilerplater except for the Windows bit; trying to slowly move off proprietary software and choose open source when I can

[โ€“] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 8 hours ago

Jetbrains though :(

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[โ€“] potatoguy@lemmy.eco.br 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Hear me out:

Mixing OOP and functional code to abstract the shit out of everything making 5k loc in around 500 loc in java. You can do magic using this trick.

[โ€“] termaxima@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 hours ago

Yes, you can make money and electricity magically disappear !

[โ€“] passepartout@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Functional programming in Java is kind of an afterthought and it shows. That's one of the reasons why Scala was created!

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[โ€“] 9point6@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Oh, I guess I'm a stoneager with a penchant for functional elitism then.

Though I will admit OOP is valid for involved data modelling, everything else should be functional though.

I've also trained myself out of most short variable names for maintainability reasons

[โ€“] masterspace@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

Outside of the for loop counters i and j, short variable names are awful. Coming back to old code written with abr var nams is like talking to someone in the military who just constantly throws out jargon and acronyms that they know you don't know.

But so are Java style ObserverFactoryManagerTemplateMachinistTemplater names.

There's a sweet middle ground of short, but actually descriptive name. Sometimes it's not possible but that's usually a code organization / language / framework smell.

Too short variable names is usually a sign that you need to use a proper ide, with auto complete, or that you need to use a proper build process that will minify your code after the fact.

Too long names are usually a sign that your module of code (function, class, namespace, etc) is too large, or that your language/framework naming conventions are too strict, or the language doesn't encapsulate scope properly.

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[โ€“] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's wild people "don't like OOP" 100%, it's like most good things, don't put it where it shouldn't be.

[โ€“] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

If you're really going down that route, you need to also remember that even the C programmed Linux Kernel is highly OOP

[โ€“] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Writes code on paper to avoid side effects" - ROFL

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