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[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 65 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I took english in school, and I speak it all the time :3

[–] frog@feddit.uk 25 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Good job. English is a very hard language that barely uses logic.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 months ago (7 children)

All languages have their difficulties. English pronunciation and spelling is a mess but grammar is easy for example. My native language has 3 genders and 4 cases for example and there are languages with more.

[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

7 cases in the standard version of my language, 8 in the dialect I speak :3

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You didn't mention genders so I guess you have none which leads me to Uralic or Turkic languages maybe?

[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh if we're doing a guessing game then..

3 genders technically, though the 3rd one (neuter) is super rare, so it's basically 2 in practice :3

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[–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It really is illogical lol :3 I tried teaching my parents before and trying to explain why all 3 Es in mercedes or all 3 Cs in pacific ocean make different sounds like "they just do"

Though my native language is quite hard for non-native speakers as well

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

mercedes

In English's defence, it's not an English word. It's a German company named after a Spanish name. And at least to my ear, the Spanish and German pronunciations also have 3 different Es. One helpful Redditor also provided an IPA guide to the German pronunciation, agreeing with my ears:

mɛrˈtseːdɛs

The "e" in the middle is long and stressed.

Edit: I would also say, that most of the times it is even pronounced like this:

məˈtseːdɛs

But I can't even begin to justify the letter c sounding like /s/, /k/, and /ʃ/.

[–] hraegsvelmir@ani.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For Spanish, at least, your ears deceive you. It's /meɾˈsedes/ in the vast majority of the Spanish speaking world, and /meɾˈθedes/ for large parts of Spain. All 3 'e' sounds are identical.

Spanish can be weird and nonsensical at times, but it's mostly counterintuitive grammatical rules. Things like "antes de que" having to be followed by the subjunctive, even in the past tense when you're speaking of an event you know for certain occurred as you're saying. The relationship between phonology and orthography in English is just a mess that's gone and contaminated this one.

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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

məˈtseːdɛs

Don't know about other Germans but for me, the last e is a schwa. So it's more [mɛɐ̯ˈtseːdəs] I think but I'm not completely sure.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Me, an English teacher: nods somberly

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

English is one of the easiest languages in the world to learn.

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[–] PKscope@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I've tried no less than 4 times to learn Spanish. High school, twice out of school, and then uni. It's just not getting through. I'm a communications graduate, so it's not like language isn't one of my strong points.... Just doesn't seem to carry over to any other language.

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hi! I remember that side, and the thing that separates isn't the knowledge of the words in the language it's the lack of ability to think in that language. instead of trying and failing at "enable real time translation from x language to my mother tongue" you must practice the language enough to think it. in your dreams and outloud. it starts to happen faster with immersion. but practice is the only means of success either way. your brain has to hear yourself speaking it to replay it at night.

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Just move to Spain. Immersion is the best way to learn a language.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Most people who take a language in school don't keep at it. We're just doing it because it's required, and to pass the class. I took French in high school. The only person I've ever met who spoke French fluently was my teacher. I really should have taken Spanish, but I wanted to be "different".

In Europe, also, because of the open borders, and being packed so close together, people encounter foreign languages far more frequently. It makes sense they'd all want to, and benefit from, knowing multiple languages. And, they'd have more opportunities to practice. Not many Japanese speak a second language, compared to Europeans, for instance.

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[–] Get_Off_My_WLAN@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Most people don't really understand how many total hours of purposeful learning and actual usage is needed to become proficient.

For Japanese, it typically takes people who can't already read 漢字 about 1,325 hours to reach N3 (conversational), and 2,200 for N2 (roughly business). That means if you want to get to N2 in only one year, expect to study like five to eight hours a day.

So don't feel too bad if you can't.

Or do, and use that frustration to motivate your study.

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I am the world's shittiest polyglot. I lost a lot of my native language, turkish. I can get by. I speak english, but my accent is getting worse. I studied german in school for 5 years and forgot most of it. I live in the river plate, so the shitty amount of intermediate spanish I can speak has one of the worst accents for spanish, just behind tied first of caribbean and chilean. I can READ cyrillic, but not understand it, except few words whichever language has in common with languages I know. I can recognize some chinese glyphs, and understand some words.

I have no idea about any grammar words except the obvious ones (verb, noun) and get as much use of IPAs as I do IPAs (the pronunciation guide/the beer)

I have seen the vowel chart a billion times and still don't understand it.

[–] GardenGeek@europe.pub 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But did you use AI for this post? ... otherwise your English is pretty sound (to me as a non-native speaker) :D

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[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I can speak English quite well.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I did but I had after-school classes because I sucked at taekwondo and football, lol. So I learned French and ended up moving to France, eventually becoming a national, and also learned English and ended up marrying a Brit. 🤷

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Went here too, but married a local ☺️! Gotta do that paperwork for the french nationality though, bureaucracy is wild here.

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[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I took Latin in high school, but I pretend it's esperanto to remain an oddball.

[–] mr_might44@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I took Latin too, but then I realised it was just French but even more boring too learn :/

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Speak for yourself: I built on learning 2 foreign languages in highschool to end up speaking 7 languages (granted, only about 5 at a level of easilly maintaining a conversation).

The more languages you learn and the more you use them, the easier it is to add more languages to the pile.

Also, at least for European languages, because they generally are related, learning a few helps with learning others: for example, my speaking Dutch helped me learn German and there are even weird effect like me being able to pick up words in Norwegian because they're similar to the same words in the other two or when somebody gave us an example of Welsh in a trip to Wales I actually figured out he was counting to 10, both because some numbers were similar to the same numbers in other languages plus there is a specific rythm in counting to 10.

As I see it, the more languages you know, the more "hooks" you have to pick stuff up in other languages plus you're probably training your brain to be better at learning new ones.

That said, you have to actually try and practice them: for example, most of my French language was learned in highschool, so when I went to France or even Quebec in Canada I tried to as much as possible speak French, which helps with retaining and even expanding it so my French Language skills are much better now than when I originally learned it in a school environment.

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[–] scathliath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

I mean, I took Spanish and use it, but I'm New Mexican and work with Cubans elsewhere.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I took Spanish from age 12-22 and German from 18-23 and 29-31.

I speak both those languages, though my Spanish is rusty, because I moved to Germany and don’t have much contact with Spanish speakers.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I speak three languages. My native, one learned at school and another self taught.

In my experience, the inability to learn languages is mainly English speaking people problem.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's because of the "language tiers".

People don't usually learn languages for fun, at least not to a point where they can actually speak it fluently. They learn it because they have an use for it. If you learn a language without having an use for it, you lose it quite quickly.

The highest tier language is the worldwide lingua franca: English. You learn English to talk to anyone, not to talk to English native speakers. For example, my company (a central European one) uses English as the work language. We don't have a single English native speaker on the team. But if I want to talk to a colleague from Rumania, Egypt, Spain or the Netherlands I will talk English with them.

The next tier is the regional lingua franca. That's e.g. Spanish, French, German, Mandarin, Russian or Arabic (and likely a few others, I don't know the whole world). These languages are spoken in certain regions and can be used to communicate with people from neighbouring countries. You can get around with e.g. German in Hungary, because most Hungarians learn German. It's also sometimes necessary since TV, books or other media might not be available in the local language. For example, a lot of Albanians speak Italian, because TV shows and movies are rarely translated into Albanian and instead broadcast in Italian. (Also, since Italy was so close, many people watched Italian TV while Albania had communism.)

The lowest tier are local languages. These are languages that are only spoken in their own country. For example: Rumanian, Serbian, Hungarian, Welsh, Gaelic, Dutch and so on. People speak these languages because they live in that country. For someone who doesn't live in that country, there's rarely any major benefit to learning these languages.

In general, people only really learn to speak languages that are on the same tier or higher.

If you live in Albania, you learn Albanian as a child, then probably add Italian to understand TV. In school you will learn English and once you go online you will use it. You might also learn Russian to be able to communicate with people in nearby countries and if you are from the muslim part of Albania you might also learn Arabic.

If you live in Germany, you'd just learn German and English. No need for any other languages. If you spend some significant time in France, Spain or Italy, you might pick up one of these languages.

If you live in the US or GB, you start with English, and there's hardly any point to learn anything else. By default you can already communicate with everyone, read everything on the internet and watch all TV shows and movies (pretty much everything is translated into English, if it isn't even refilmed in English). If you try to learn another language and try to use it with native speakers of said language, chances are pretty high they just switch over to English.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Aaaaand that would be me

Countless hours of German and French and at best a few words remain

Time well spent?

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I always immediately think Jack Sparrow is Russell Brand and recoil, then remember who it actually is and then recoil again because it’s crook blokes all the way down.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I had a co-worker who took a few semesters of Spanish in high school, she got all As, and then went on a class trip to Mexico. At first, she couldn't understand a thing, but she said as she listened and tried, "something snapped" and suddenly she got it.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yritän oppia suomen, mutta unohdin harjoitella kuukausin ajan

(If I made a mistake tell me)

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[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

It is still very good brain exercise to learn new languages. It's a way of keeping your brain muscle in Shape. Just like math exercises and reading books.

[–] sundaymidnight@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I read in English many years ago, but I'm not fluid speaker. My English is rigid. Then, you're not the problem nor your teacher.

Imagine that you are learning the Chinese language if from Latin based to Latin based is a nightmare.

[–] psoul@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Et bien vous savez quoi, on peut s’entraîner un peu. Pourquoi pas s’entraider? Je vous parle en français et vous me répondez en espagnol ?

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah, ma petit chou... Voulez-vous couchez avec mois ce soir?

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Pourquoi le crocodile a-t-il tué le macaron avec la pièce de vingt-cinq cents plaquée nickel?

[–] Canopyflyer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Je ne parle pas Francais.

[–] mr_might44@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I took one of my country's official languages in high school and I still speak it like shit ...

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago

I took German in primary school (0.5 or 1.5 years, I forget which), Spanish and Korean in late primary school/early high school (3 years), French (5 years) and Vietnamese (1 year) in high school. Of these, I can hold a very basic conversation in French and have good enough grammar to put together fairly sophisticated sentences, very slowly, using a dictionary; and can read the Korean script (the same way someone who speaks Turkish but has literally never heard a word of the language can "read English" because their language uses the same script) and barely any more than that, in any of those languages.

I blame the fact that I changed languages so much for my poor skill in all of them. (Though a lack of will or immersion certainly has a fair amount to do with it, too.)

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (7 children)

My school taught Indonesian. It was a very popular complaint among students that we should be learning a more ubiquitous language like French, German, Japanese, Mandarin, or Spanish.

The only thing I know in Indonesian is ular besar (big snake)

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