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Here's what I would do:
Sign a cooperation treaty with Netherlands saying that in case US invades Greenland all exports of ASML equipment are paused for 2 years. In exchange Netherlands gets parts of profits from any mining in Greenland.
Now each time Trump threatens to invade Greenland SP500 falls.
Problem solved.
As a Dane I think this statement is beyond embarrassing from our PM. I hope it is only for show, while decoupling efforts are ongoing behind the scenes.
They bought US F-35s recently while the Greenland commentary is ongoing.
It's not only for show. Combined with the chat control shit coming out of Denmark, I think your government is already beholden to the USA.
The F-35s was bought many years ago and is already in use. Discarding such a massive investment (and capability) now, would not make sense. Denmarks Air Force is not large enough to support too many different types.
We have 100% been way way way to beholden of the US, no doubt about it - but people have woken up now w. Krasnov 2.0, and our government always goes where the votes are, so I actually believe things will change now.
If you've not been looking for alternatives 1 year ago already, you don't deserve to be reelected as a government in my opinion. It's just negligence putting too many of your eggs into the US bucket.
While I tend to agree, the actual options of government ready parties and politicians to replace them is slim. I would rather have our current gov. than some far right or far left, as they all seem to be either pro US/pro Russia, while we need someone that is pro Europe / pro world / anti imperialism.
This is like someone staying in an abusive relationship for the kids.
Not really. When your defense structure, hardware, etc are so intertwined as NATO is, you can't just leave, especially for a smaller country like Denmark.
I'm pretty positive they all believe that once Trump dies/goes away, everything will be back to normal, and that's why they don't want to burn bridges with the US.
It's an absolutely insane take that shows how much that shithole holds us all by the balls. We should be moving away from anything they provide, it's an insanely dangerous situation
I hope that this is not true. Trust in the USA won't come back, without many decades of active work by the USA to regain it
I’m in the US and a lot of people still rabidly support this child rapist. The last poll results showed that 42% of Americans still support trump. It’s pretty scary
This is the point though and the greatest issue seen from the rest of the world. The problem is not Trump but the American people who support ideas like that
Edit: directly support or are passive when it comes to choosing
That's exactly the case. Trump is just doing in the open what the U.S. has always been doing. "Returning to normal" ultimately doesn't change anything.
I don't know if I was another Ally of Denmark and I heard this I would think well I shouldn't stick my neck out for them.
Your most important ally still wants to invade: https://www.firstpost.com/world/trump-asked-us-special-forces-to-plan-greenland-invasion-faces-resistance-from-military-generals-report-13967597.html
With friends like that...
Stockholm syndrome?
Translation: we burned bridges around the world by cozying up to the biggest murderer in the land, and we're still beholden to them, what else can we do?
we burned bridges around the world by cozying up to the biggest murderer in the land,
I'll be the first to say the USA is a shitshow right now, but if you were to go back in time, which other nation would you have the Danes "cozy up to"?
In the absence of God, Europe could've been a continent of commies and maybe some fraternity, solidarity and class conscience would have been built amongst these ever-warring nations, maybe?
In the absence of God, Europe could’ve been a continent of commies and maybe some fraternity, solidarity and class conscience would have been built amongst these ever-warring nations, maybe?
That sounds like a cop out answer to your comment above. You're criticizing Denmark of allying with the USA. What was their better ally? Here's your chance to back up your claims.
Are you suggesting Denmark would have been better served joining the Soviet Union, which were the closest "commies" around them?
Yes, that's exactly what I meant! But regardless, they cozied up to the big baddy like the rest of Europe did, and now we're alone, solely at their mercy. And I don't have to provide better alternatives for something that could've happened in a different version of history to say the sky is blue, lol. It is what it is, hopefully we can build new paths forward without imperialism and Western European supremacy or we'll end up here again.
they cozied up to the big baddy like the rest of Europe did, and now we’re alone, solely at their mercy.
In 1945 Denmark was liberated from Nazi occupation by the British. Britain itself was in no shape to rebuild continental Europe after itself suffering from the Blitz and toward the end of the war repeated V-1 buzzbomb attacks. The USA was the untouched ally that helped rebuild Europe with the Marshal plan. Up until trump, the USA was a good ally to Europe even in modern times especially against Soviet aggression. To say the Danes made a mistake "cozying up" to the USA is to deny actual history and reality. There was no better great power ally to Europe during the post-war years.
And I don’t have to provide better alternatives for something that could’ve happened in a different version of history
Yes you do when you're saying the Danes made a mistake. Otherwise your criticism and your argument are empty if you can't say what they should have done instead.
You know, you argue like the troll user UniversalMonk. You make a bold claim divorced from reality, then when challenged with facts you handwave away any parts that completely invalidate your original claim. Is this a coincidence or do you need to cycle out to a new alt again?
My bold claim was saying that Denmark chose the side of Western imperialism and now will have to suffer the expected consequences of it? Also, of course, Denmark and the rest of Europe were exempted from the violence of the empire because they are vassal states, spreading misery elsewhere directly or indirectly, duh. But what Soviet aggression could they have had if they had been Soviets themselves, for instance? And I never said they made a mistake? They knew exactly what this meant, they went ahead with it, I assume they expected what would happen with American decadence and the imperialist boomerang coming home because history has countless examples of it. You're having a very emotional reaction to me just detailing what we both know are facts (we haven't even disagreed yet!) and I assume you just think I'm implying "and that makes Denmark just a bunch of evil cunts, fuck em" when the reality is much more complex, which is why I didnt say that.
My bold claim was saying that Denmark chose the side of Western imperialism and now will have to suffer the expected consequences of it?
Are you trying to say your claim isn't a negative thing? In all accepted parsing of the English language, I don't know any other reasonable conclusion from your statement.
Since it is negative, you're implying there was a better choice. So what was your implied better choice?
And I never said they made a mistake?
Oh? Then are you now clarifying that Denmark made the right choice?
But what Soviet aggression could they have had if they had been Soviets themselves, for instance?
Look at the history of Soviet actions in Poland, Lithunaina, Lativa, and Estonia for your answer.
You don't need to answer. I think I've seen enough to lose hope in your posting in good faith.
Here I was thinking that the other members of the EU was their most important allies, but if the danes believe appeasement is the way to go I cant stop them.
Denmark has a long-standing tradition of brown-nosing the U.S, and in the past they've happily spied on other European members for the sake of the U.S.
Capitulation is NOT the way. Denmark is about to find out the hard way that the orange felon is not an ally to anyone other than himself.
Honestly it’s not Trump. It’s the U.S. If Trump wasn’t president the U.S. would be up to the same bullshit just more quietly.