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The list of things that Christian Nationalist can't handle is damn nigh infinite.
Bible is def on that list
IMO, we all should really be sworn in on a copy of the State and/or Federal constitution.
I think the best way to honor the TRUE MEANING of LIFE, Liberty, and Pursuit of happiness, is to swear on the sock that you um... do that stuff with... to pay respects to the 50% of genetic materials that will never become life, that that you will swear on their names (well... the lack of names) to faithfully execute anyone that abandones their children or emotionally abuses them, and that I do take this oath freely, so help me Saint Mangione.
If I become a politician, I will swear on a hentai or a videogame. Things that I care about, and represent me as a person.
Asking an officiary to print a specific nhentai no. so you can swear your oath on it would be the funniest fucking thing ever
Can I be sworn in on the Calvin and Hobbs anthology.
Or maybe a cdrom of Encarta 95?
You can take the oath on a fuggin' Harry Potter book if you want to.
My .02, everyone taking a oath of office should use the Constitution.
Oxygen? Yes, we need it to breathe.
Thanks for sharing your 2 centimetres
Die mad NatC's.
If he doesn't believe in the Bible, what keeps him from being a murdering rapist?
He wasn't born on the USA
Believing in the bible.
I guess that makes me a raping murderer. Good to know. I'll warn my family, they don't believe in it either.
It's common knowledge that if you believe in the bible you are a murdering rapist, duh. Hope your family is safe!
I wish my life were so easy that my biggest worry was some random politician, in a place I don't even live in, swearing their oath on a book I don't like.
Goddamnit I hate this world and fucking social media, turning everyone into a mini politician.
This shit has no material effect on your life, and you should be angry about the stuff that does. (like wages.)
I’m going to pledge my oath on a box of pizza :)
Invoking religion is a ridiculous thing to have for a public office anyway, regardless of which one it is. If public officials in the US need to swear on anything, make it the US Constitution or whatever equivalent state/city charter they have.
Nah, I love that the chuds will get immensely mad at this. It's incredibly amusing!
Most of the people who've sworn an oath to defend the constitution from domestic enemies — literally tens of millions of Americans — have completely ignored their oath.
They're a meaningless virtue signal at this point.
Exactly. Complete separation of church and state is the need
Can someone be sworn in on Carl Sagan’s Cosmos?
Yes
Like, if I cared about the reasoning for the bible swearing I wouldn't want a Muslim swearing on one instead of a Quran. Isn't this one of the arguments Christians use as to why they don't want to elect an atheist?
The quiet part they're not saying is that in their minds the fact he doesn't "believe" in their precious book (not that they follow it much themselves) invalidates him both as a politician and a person. It's just a more "politically acceptable" excuse for their irrational fear/hatred of someone different from them - they're afraid all the bullshit they've been programmed to believe all their lives about outsiders being out to get them is now going to come to fruition, and they'll pick at the most absurd things to claim it's true rather than admit they might be wrong.
Well, duh, he has to swear on a book that means something to him, preferably a (to him) holy book. How weird would it be if he swore on a Christian bible. not being Christian himself?
The book is not there for our cultural values. It's there to ensure the person swears an oath on something meaningful to them. We just forgot about that because we are used to all sorts of public figures swearing oaths that mean nothing to them.
If he swore in on a bible, or any other book, they would say he's avoiding a quran on purpose because he doesn't actually want to swear an oath on it
No matter what he did, they were prepared to complain
It truly is amazingly gratifying to see such genuine people as Mamdani & "The Squad" successfully stepping up to make a difference, and enough people actually voting for them to win. It's honestly the only hope I have left in this shithole.
I'm pretty sure that you could use "Java for dummies" as a book for swearing if you wanted to. It's the swearing that matter, not the hand rest.
as an atheist, I'd have to think long and hard about what I took an oath on.
Ultimately, I just don't believe there's anything which I believe would smite me for taking an oath on it and breaking it.
Like my word holds more meaning than books.
I've settled on either the constitution (for federal office) or a sword, as in- if oath is broken, use this.
Maybe they should swear in on a guillotine.
I don't think many politicians think they will face any divine reprisal either. They swear an oath on a bible, then do all the heinous things they do
Kissinger swore an oath on a bible, then signed off on the deaths of tens of thousands
Trump swore an oath on a bible, then spent his first year protecting pedophiles
Rick Scott swore an oath on a bible, shortly after stealing hundreds of millions from tax payers
I mean, the Christian god is cool with genocide, commands it numerous times, tolerates all sorts of heinous things, and is at least as likely to protect pedos as Trump. (May also be one. Depending on how it worked with Marry. Lots to unpack there.)
Constitution (or whatever local equivalent) since that's essentially what you're sweating to uphold anyway, makes way more sense than any holy book
Sure. But there way less interesting than. Calvin and Hobbes. (From another reply,)
I'd take an oath on DVDs of TNG season 5.
12” version of tom waits’ rain dogs for me
Given the critical mind that led you to your current atheistic beliefs (what I did there? :P), you have to have developed a mature moral code. I’d argue that taking an oath on something at the core of your being would be more binding than taking one based on any external books or faith system. (Muslim here btw but I love philosophy)
Most people of faith don’t realise how most atheists develop strong intrinsic morality by necessity during their journey. And I’m not saying that all atheists are morally superior! (Humans be humans)
This is just an observation based on my experiences and discussions with most of the open-minded ones I’ve come across thus far.
Education beats indoctrination any day. And the well-informed believer has to go through an atheism phase (to varying degrees, so YMMV) to be honest with themselves. Doubt is a perquisite of developing independent morality that confirms faith. At least that’s what I believe.
Edit: also to anyone reading this, don’t ask me about religious stuff, I’m not an Imam or anything. Just someone who went through some heavy shit and had to think outside the framework to make their life work.