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[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The list of things that Christian Nationalist can't handle is damn nigh infinite.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Bible is def on that list

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

I think the best way to honor the TRUE MEANING of LIFE, Liberty, and Pursuit of happiness, is to swear on the sock that you um... do that stuff with... to pay respects to the 50% of genetic materials that will never become life, that that you will swear on their names (well... the lack of names) to faithfully execute anyone that abandones their children or emotionally abuses them, and that I do take this oath freely, so help me Saint Mangione.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

IMO, we all should really be sworn in on a copy of the State and/or Federal constitution.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If I become a politician, I will swear on a hentai or a videogame. Things that I care about, and represent me as a person.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

Asking an officiary to print a specific nhentai no. so you can swear your oath on it would be the funniest fucking thing ever

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Die mad NatC's.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 37 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

You can take the oath on a fuggin' Harry Potter book if you want to.

My .02, everyone taking a oath of office should use the Constitution.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Oxygen? Yes, we need it to breathe.

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 14 hours ago

Thanks for sharing your 2 centimetres

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

Can I be sworn in on the Calvin and Hobbs anthology.

Or maybe a cdrom of Encarta 95?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 16 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

If he doesn't believe in the Bible, what keeps him from being a murdering rapist?

[–] Cowbee_Admirer@reddthat.com 2 points 6 hours ago

He wasn't born on the USA

[–] Bruhh@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I guess that makes me a raping murderer. Good to know. I'll warn my family, they don't believe in it either.

[–] Bruhh@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

It's common knowledge that if you believe in the bible you are a murdering rapist, duh. Hope your family is safe!

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 31 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (4 children)

I wish my life were so easy that my biggest worry was some random politician, in a place I don't even live in, swearing their oath on a book I don't like.

Goddamnit I hate this world and fucking social media, turning everyone into a mini politician.

This shit has no material effect on your life, and you should be angry about the stuff that does. (like wages.)

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago

I’m going to pledge my oath on a box of pizza :)

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Can someone be sworn in on Carl Sagan’s Cosmos?

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Makenzie Lystrup (NASA director) swore in on Pale Blue Dot.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Thanks for confirming!

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 82 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Invoking religion is a ridiculous thing to have for a public office anyway, regardless of which one it is. If public officials in the US need to swear on anything, make it the US Constitution or whatever equivalent state/city charter they have.

[–] Cowbee_Admirer@reddthat.com 1 points 6 hours ago

Nah, I love that the chuds will get immensely mad at this. It's incredibly amusing!

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 29 points 17 hours ago

Most of the people who've sworn an oath to defend the constitution from domestic enemies — literally tens of millions of Americans — have completely ignored their oath.

They're a meaningless virtue signal at this point.

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 6 points 14 hours ago

Exactly. Complete separation of church and state is the need

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 24 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Like, if I cared about the reasoning for the bible swearing I wouldn't want a Muslim swearing on one instead of a Quran. Isn't this one of the arguments Christians use as to why they don't want to elect an atheist?

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 12 points 17 hours ago

The quiet part they're not saying is that in their minds the fact he doesn't "believe" in their precious book (not that they follow it much themselves) invalidates him both as a politician and a person. It's just a more "politically acceptable" excuse for their irrational fear/hatred of someone different from them - they're afraid all the bullshit they've been programmed to believe all their lives about outsiders being out to get them is now going to come to fruition, and they'll pick at the most absurd things to claim it's true rather than admit they might be wrong.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

I'm pretty sure that you could use "Java for dummies" as a book for swearing if you wanted to. It's the swearing that matter, not the hand rest.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 63 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

Well, duh, he has to swear on a book that means something to him, preferably a (to him) holy book. How weird would it be if he swore on a Christian bible. not being Christian himself?

The book is not there for our cultural values. It's there to ensure the person swears an oath on something meaningful to them. We just forgot about that because we are used to all sorts of public figures swearing oaths that mean nothing to them.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

If he swore in on a bible, or any other book, they would say he's avoiding a quran on purpose because he doesn't actually want to swear an oath on it

No matter what he did, they were prepared to complain

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 27 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (8 children)

It truly is amazingly gratifying to see such genuine people as Mamdani & "The Squad" successfully stepping up to make a difference, and enough people actually voting for them to win. It's honestly the only hope I have left in this shithole.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 23 points 19 hours ago (9 children)

as an atheist, I'd have to think long and hard about what I took an oath on.

Ultimately, I just don't believe there's anything which I believe would smite me for taking an oath on it and breaking it.

Like my word holds more meaning than books.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I've settled on either the constitution (for federal office) or a sword, as in- if oath is broken, use this.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Maybe they should swear in on a guillotine.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think many politicians think they will face any divine reprisal either. They swear an oath on a bible, then do all the heinous things they do

Kissinger swore an oath on a bible, then signed off on the deaths of tens of thousands

Trump swore an oath on a bible, then spent his first year protecting pedophiles

Rick Scott swore an oath on a bible, shortly after stealing hundreds of millions from tax payers

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I mean, the Christian god is cool with genocide, commands it numerous times, tolerates all sorts of heinous things, and is at least as likely to protect pedos as Trump. (May also be one. Depending on how it worked with Marry. Lots to unpack there.)

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Constitution (or whatever local equivalent) since that's essentially what you're sweating to uphold anyway, makes way more sense than any holy book

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Sure. But there way less interesting than. Calvin and Hobbes. (From another reply,)

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

My undergrad physics textbook

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'd take an oath on DVDs of TNG season 5.

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[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (10 children)

Given the critical mind that led you to your current atheistic beliefs (what I did there? :P), you have to have developed a mature moral code. I’d argue that taking an oath on something at the core of your being would be more binding than taking one based on any external books or faith system. (Muslim here btw but I love philosophy)

Most people of faith don’t realise how most atheists develop strong intrinsic morality by necessity during their journey. And I’m not saying that all atheists are morally superior! (Humans be humans)

This is just an observation based on my experiences and discussions with most of the open-minded ones I’ve come across thus far.

Education beats indoctrination any day. And the well-informed believer has to go through an atheism phase (to varying degrees, so YMMV) to be honest with themselves. Doubt is a perquisite of developing independent morality that confirms faith. At least that’s what I believe.

Edit: also to anyone reading this, don’t ask me about religious stuff, I’m not an Imam or anything. Just someone who went through some heavy shit and had to think outside the framework to make their life work.

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