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    Edit: "Updating to the legacy 580xx drivers doesn't show me a desktop anymore", just in case someone else can stumble upon this by searching something similar.

    Thanks to @deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de and @Ooops@feddit.org I did try fixing it out of curiosity. I had forgotten to install linux-headers. Hopefully someone who actually has the same problem as me, and needs to fix it, can use the tips given in the comments. On my end, I just had to install linux-headers and one reboot later it worked.

    Always check if you have all needed packages and don't just "remember" that you had them installed.

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    [–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

    I'm safe, my ThinkPad doesn't have an iGPU, and there's no instructions on how to solder one onto an L440 motherboard.

    [–] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 15 hours ago

    Omg I remember running into something like this about 12 years ago. TTY did help but did need a reboot. I had to arch-chroot off the live usb so many times that night, my first ever Linux installation and I fucked up the bootloader and initial packages so hard so many times. I felt so cool when I was able to switch to another tty without needing yet another usb boot. Thanks for that memory.

    [–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 89 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    You need a couple things:

    • The kernel driver (dkms)
    • Userspace component
    • Kernel headers (for dkms)

    First get your kernel headers, this is easy enough, but varies based on which kernel you have installed. The format of the package name is {kernel}-headers. If you have the linux kernel, get linux-headers. If you have linux-lts, get linux-lts-headers. If you're not sure on this, the command pacman -Q | grep linux searches for installed packages containing linux in the name. If you have multiple kernels installed, get the headers for all of them.

    Then install (from AUR) at least nvidia-580xx-dkms (display out) and nvidia-580xx-utils (Acceleration, like 3D and video decoding). If you have Steam or play Windows games under Wine, be sure to get lib32-nvidia-580xx-utils too.

    Also of note is the order in which you install things. Having the kernel headers installed is important for the DKMS modules to install succesfully. If you already have nvidia-580xx-dkms but were missing your kernel headers, you should reinstall it after installing your kernel headers.

    [–] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 day ago

    I keep hitting my face on the fact that DKMS modules somehow don't depend on the kernel headers and these have to be installed manually. This happened to me both in Arch and in Debian.

    Why does everyone seem to think that this makes sense?

    Thank you very much. I could've sworn I had linux-headers installed. Frankly, I might've had them on a different device for some other reason. This is why you check your packages kids.

    [–] Ooops@feddit.org 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    "Doesn't help" is a bit unspecific for an actual answer.

    I simply installed nvidia-580xx-dkms and nvidia-580xx-utils and that was all. If you did not already use the dkms-driver package before you of course also need <your kernel>-headers and dkms (but the latter should be pulled as a dependency for nvidia-580xx-dkms anyway)...

    Which automatically asks for the removal of nvidia-open (the standard package for the base linux kernel) or nvidia-open-dkms and nvidia-open-utils that replaced the earlier nvidia, nvidia-dkms, nvidia-utils packages when 590 hit.

    PS: If you still have stuff using 32bit add (you might have guessed the scheme by now...) lib32-nvidia-580xx-utils to replace lib32-nvidia-open-utils

    This is the way. I will edit the text of the meme to show the solution at the top. As I had said to another commenter, I could've sworn I had linux-headers installed. This is why you check even if you are sure you have a package. Hopefully someone having this issue will stumble upon it randomly.

    [–] emil_98@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Dropping an extensive explanation and how-to is a meme.

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    [–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    Using arch is the first mistake.

    [–] traxex@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    I don't think its an Arch issue. But on a system that has snapshots or generations or whatever Silverblue term is then the 30s remedy is reboot to an old snapshot

    [–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

    This can actually be done with any fs that supports cheap snapshots

    [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 64 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    RIP. Time to pull out the backup, amiright?

    [–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 110 points 1 day ago (3 children)
    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 82 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    The backup specifically created for recovery…

    [–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Designed to backup the recovery…:

    [–] errer@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

    It turned into a Llama 8 billion parameter didn't it?

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    [–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    Blessed be CachyOS for setting that shit up for me automatically.

    [–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    While I agree snapper (what CachyOS uses) I very useful, it is important to draw a distinction between snapshots (snapper) and a proper backup tool (borg or restic). Snapshots are usually stored on the same drive, so in the event of a drive failure/corruption you are still very fucked. Proper backup programs also have other important features, like the ability to select remote locations, setup encryption, etc. DO NOT rely on snapper to (always) save your ass.

    That being said, I fucking love snapper and it was the main feature I was missing from openSUSE.

    [–] Ooops@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago

    While the distinction can be important, the snapshots from right before the update are exactly what you want in this case over some actual but always somewhat outdated real backup

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    [–] the_q@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 day ago

    AMDs AMDingly

    [–] Val@anarchist.nexus 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I just went over to NVK. I shouldn't really waste my time playing the graphic intensive games anyway. The indies are better.

    I tried dkms but it took so long to install I gave up.

    [–] edinbruh@feddit.it 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

    OP has a pascal GPU, the Nouveau kernel drivers for pascal (which you need for nvk) aren't really suitable because they can't change the clock at runtime, you are stuck at boot clock (which you can configure)

    [–] Val@anarchist.nexus 1 points 18 hours ago

    Yep. I have a 1050 myself. Can't really play anything 3D.

    [–] gegil@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Is nouveau open source driver for nvidia actually good for such old gpus?

    Not for quite a few games. Some lighter titles might get away with it, but not a lot.

    [–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    You have btrfs and snapper, and just roll back to a working version in the grub menu, and install the legacy drivers before it all goes wrong

    [–] KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I have ext4 and efistub, and the attention span of a squirrel.

    [–] Septian@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 day ago

    I have never before felt so much kinship from a single comment.

    [–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

    I started to read your comment, but there's a car 100 metres up the road...

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    [–] hapablap@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] KuzhinierSileon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Already bought intel. I am quite fond of the B580.

    [–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Good, as long as you checked the driver situation beforehand right.... Right?

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    [–] enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    how is it? I heard it's a good hardware but terrible drivers, at least on windows. I don't know the state of intel GPU drivers on Linux.

    It's quite an upgrade from my previous setup so I cannot tell you if it is good since my comparison is a 1050ti... But they've also made improvements to the drivers, even on windows as far as I remember.

    [–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world -2 points 14 hours ago

    If you use arch and managing nvidia is hard you shouldn't have picked arch

    [–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

    What is the difference between arch drivers and say pop_os (my current daily)?

    [–] chocrates@piefed.world 8 points 1 day ago

    Oh man, I remember fondly the days of booting to no gui. Typing out error codes to another computer to Google.

    I don't think I miss it. Linux has been super stable for me for a decade maybe, and I've been trying to game on it, so I used to have to fight with "faster" drivers all the time

    Modern schoolkids don't read, so Arch should consider making 20-minute videos for every update. And a song like some of the *BSD.

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