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I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

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[–] DiabolicalBird@lemmy.ca 8 points 57 minutes ago (2 children)

From my own experience with Lemmy, I can absolutely see why it's declining.

Lemmy is packed full of miserable people constantly calling for violence. 90% of the feed is packed full of US politics, it doesn't matter how many filters I use I still see that greasy orange cunt's face every time I open Lemmy.

The amount of hostility towards outsiders just getting into Lemmy is astounding, and I've absolutely seen the whole "quality over quantity" crap that only drives people away from the platform. The IT tech snobbery is also incredibly offputting to people who aren't tech enthusiests.

In short, Lemmy has a toxic shithead problem that a platform this small can't afford if it wants to survive long term.

[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 3 points 10 minutes ago

I’ve seen a rise in calls to violence. This is not cool.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 39 minutes ago

Sad but true

[–] Isolde@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago

I came here looking for something different than Reddit but I’m actually pretty done. I try to post, start threads and conversations but the ones that don’t get deleted because of some vague rule get questioned to hell as to why it exists that it makes me wish I hadn’t posted at all.

[–] Arrius@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 hours ago

Reddit refugee here. I've been banned three times in 2 weeks for erroneous applications of nebula's policies. They appear to be going through a self-destructive phase. All you need to be is a viable alternative to a dumpster fire and deliver a clear valuable alternative.

[–] TacoJohn44@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Well, good news - I'm brand new and decided I'm not resubbing to Relay so I'm effectively off Reddit since the official mobile app is garbage.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 hours ago

Web banners are the way to go

[–] Unforeseen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

For me I deleted my account a month ago after 2 years of lemmy. I forgot about this account and jerboa install, the only community sub is this one haha.

I figure I'll just say why I left, this place became a depressing shit hole.

The communities aren't niche enough because it's not big enough, so it's just a shit experience. I'm just going to look to old school forums again. Phpbb you must still be out there..

I figure I'll still keep this account in case I need to use it for something useful. One never knows when they'll get lost on the seas and need some directions.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The culture wars have reached the fediverse, and it's making me less happy to be here. I don't want to hang out in places where people use slurs and insults, even if they're not aimed at me. I'm seeing more casual misogyny/misandry, more casual use of the r**** slur, more perfectionist gatekeeping, more assumptions, and just less good-faith comments in general.

I'd advertise, but I'm starting to look for an alternative to lemmy.

[–] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm starting to see this. Over on Mastodon I'm starting to get devisive pro-Reform stuff in my feed. Often it's someone boosting (though not sure why) a video from a pro-Farage account and making a silly comment about it. The local instance I'm in is nice and friendly - and I don't want the arrival of people who just want to stir up things. We do politics there and seems left-leaning but it's courteous. Occasionally a tone deaf elephant will thunder through and then move instances when they realise we don't like the being nasty stuff.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

pretty much. i have been here for over two years. in the past few months it's become more and more frustrating and i'm getting harassed/attacked/banned, always from bad faith actors that whose grade school reasoning is 'i know you are but what am i?!' type justifications. they only reply to call you names and tell you how wrong you are and how right they are.

it's the same idiots who ruined reddit who can't tolerate anyone who thinks differently than them and then screech about how tolerate and open minded they are and if anyone disagrees with them the are a stupid facist bigot.

people forget, but redditque was a think people actaully practiced and made reddit a really cool place. people would argue, but they generally didn't ban/block/harass each other. nobody in first decade of reddit went around downvoting/reporting all my posts. but that's just how shit is now on the internet too many unwell nutjobs who want to punish people who type words they don't like.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 35 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (7 children)

…I am drifting away from Lemmy myself.

Political communities are echo chambers like Reddit, in a different color. Discussing tech or helping others is better, but still feels like talking in circles.

Wholesome subs like /c/SuperBowl are sublime, but I mostly lurk there.

Information hygiene is awful. Big subs upvote tabloids and Tweets to the sky, as long as they align with their beliefs. I just saw a discussion on a not-obviously AI generated photo with the community sentiment of “misinformation? Who cares. It’s a pro-lefty meme, so spread it.”

Anyway, all this scrolling and impulse commenting eats time. I get the same feeling of shouting into a black hole that I get on corporate social media.


Much of this is my fault, though.

I have several niches I intend to make original posts for, but never do.

It’s somewhere in the giant pile of my IRL executive dysfunction :’(

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

why beat yourself up. you know good content won't be rewarded or seen.

only the ragebait. the internet is not information driven anymore, it's dopmine driven.

it's the super highway of rage and hate.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I have some posts/interests that I think would get some visibility. In my case, it really is executive dysfunction, heh.

Not that you're wrong. And, unfortunately, its a ludicrously profitable highway outside of the Fediverse.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

i've seen a huge uptick in the rage/hate activity on lemmy... and it drives tons of upvotes and comments.

smart thoughtful interesting stuff... gets maybe 1/10 the activity.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The info hygiene here is really bad. I thought people here would be better about finding well sourced informative articles to talk about but its the same news slop that dominates other platforms. This is a discussion forum so posts should have something worth discussing. Spamming the same trump action over and over doesnt create any discussion.

Scrolling through the news community is so depressing there is no comments because everyone is thinking "what do you want me to say its bad its awful"

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

On the contrary, I've made a few (not a ton) of what I thought were interesting news posts, but they don't seem to gain traction.

I think the deeper issue is ragebait works, very well. The community seems to be content with that, and Lemmy/Piefed devs aren't structuring the site the counter it.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I guess ragebait really is what the people want. Its a bit sad but oh well.

the only way to not have an echo chamber where people vote with their emotions is to have an enlightened gnosticism user-base which is obviously very difficult to get and nurture but i'm trying :)

the best way to do this is to cultivate an atmosphere of discussion and in-depth thought regularly, which you can do by engaging with these discussions and seeking enlightenment yourself.

[–] qualia@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't like how broad Lemmy assumes default interests are, though then again showing everyone the average interests may statistically be the best initialization point.

Every time I'm shown a community I'm totally uninterested I make sure to go in and block it from my feed. Likewise with aggressive or otherwise pathological users. It gets better.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Lemmy doesn’t assume anything. Sorting is done by votes or activity from all communities; the intent is for the user to subscribe to communities to curate their feed. But blocking works too.

I don’t know precisely how Reddit works now, but it used to be like that as well. There was no interest algorithm, no suggestions, other than a bit of vote count nonlinearity. It just had the quirk of defaulting to a few select subs in “hot,” instead of “all” like most Lemmy/Piefed instances do.

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm turned off from interacting. I got banned (I'm guessing since I can't even reply to people) from world news when Maduro was kidnapped and I mentioned that my Venezuelan friends were hopeful. As this was scary but good news. And my god how I got flamed. Theres no room for conversation I got tagged, replied to, people made fun of me and that's it. I wasn't even allowed to interact anymore so it looks like I just said something and ran away.

I'm not even close to center, yet it's all or nothing with politics here. It's seriously become reddit 2.0. Pathetic.

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 hours ago

It seems strange that these two curves so closely match eachother in shape.

When 6month active users drop that means 6 months ago a user stopped using the platform.
When monthly active users drop that means a month ago a user stopped using the platform.
So this would suggest that there is a correlation between user attrition 6 months ago and last month.

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Wait till Reddit fucks up again, there will be an influx of users.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 56 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (9 children)

I’m feeling very burnt out. Lemmy is kinda an endless stream of political doom and gloom. For context, I’m in the US and already stressed out by our political situation. But I don’t come here to see more doom and gloom. It’s getting to the point where I think I need to get off for my mental health.

Then there are all the people who if you don’t agree exactly with their opinion they downvote you to hell. You have left leaning politics but not my flavor of left? Downvote! You hate enshitification and big tech privacy practices, but you use a single piece of software that isn’t FOSS? Downvote!

It’s so exhausting. I absolutely hate Reddit but I miss going on there and just laughing at how someone’s TV is too high. I miss laughing at how some restaurant serves food of shovels instead of plates.

And that’s not even getting into the lack of content. That part I understand requires users like myself to be as active as possible. But it’s hard being active when I feel so burnt out from the other stuff here.

Tbh, idk if these issues are specific to Lemmy or just the internet as a whole. I can only speak to the slice of the internet I find myself in. But I just wanna see people that are excited about things: photography, 3d printing, weird keyboards, etc. And that exists here, but it’s drowned out by all the doom and gloom.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

i'm sick of how awful and ignorant the vast majority of comments here are. and how they have to conflated outlandish beliefs with being morally correct.

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[–] Jackie@piefed.social 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think part of the issue is new users not understanding or feeling comfortable with the fediverse (myself included a while ago). Even after searching for a bit and looking it up I can barely get how it works, but there's really no guide with the common terms anywhere, how to get started, the difference between platforms and what they have in common etc. The benefits are the first thing you hear about, but they seem more like jargon terms than actually anything functional.

Reddit has better accessibility and user retainment, alongside with a library of old posts that are good for searching some niche stuff up.

For example, if I were to get a friend into lemmy, I'm not really sure how I can explain it to them, or where to start other than the copy paste "decentralized" "federated" stuff. It doesn't really answer stuff like who moderates it, develops it, owns it, or what's the difference between lemmy, piefed mbin, how do they interact with each other.
I believe that an introductory "oficial" post on the front of each platform in layman's terms would be great to get new users to stay.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

just tell them it's like when people had their won websites.

except now they their own reddits.

but i guess if they are under 30 they may not understand what any of that means, since people haveing websites stopped being a thing 10+ years ago.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

While (I think) I totally understand what you are saying here...

... Yeah I'm honestly fine with lemmy just being more or less a tiny cluster of neo forums.

I like the cozy.

At the same time... from I guess a less selfish perspective... yeah, this is the exact time an alternative to Reddit and other corpo social media needs to be popularized.

But, somewhat alleviating myself from that... I don't really know anybody that I could 'word of mouth' spread lemmy to, that I haven't already.

And I'm too crippled to put stickers on really anything outside my own apartment, lol.

[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 51 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

Hot take: the biggest issue is actually ever entering a community and seeing zero comments. Most reddit addiction stems from wanting to read comments, so I think people should add a comment to something if they're upvoting and they see that the thread has zero comments.

Nothing eliminates enthusiasm like seeing 0 comments on every post in a community, especially if that community is driven by bots.

[–] mr_might44@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Doing my part by trying to comment more on posts with 0 comments.

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 9 points 7 hours ago

Every person that keeps saying it's good that there is no one here sounds like scrooge in my head going,
"Good, all to decrease the surplus population"

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