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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 73 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

If China has managed to do something that scientists genuinely thought was impossible why are there several nuclear fusion research facilities all over the planet? If it's impossible that seems like a bad use of resources.

I think maybe that scientists thought it was entirely possible, and that's why they were trying to do it.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 30 points 14 hours ago

Journalist reads "limit" and clickbaits it, typical

[–] ji59@hilariouschaos.com 6 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Fusion is possible. It just needs 20 years of research first.

[–] drapermache@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

It's been that way for over 40 years lol.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

That is what they said. Twenty years ago.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 131 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I really hate how so many of these articles feel like they need to dumb it down with this “artificial sun” imagery. It feels so condescending. I’d rather learn more about the latest progress with nuclear fusion

[–] mckean@programming.dev 35 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

articles such as this one usually are optimized for their audience, you just aren't the audience. that's ok. I'm rarely the audience either :) a quick search should give you what you're looking for https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adz3040

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Cool, thanks. So much more readable

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[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 260 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Meanwhile USA is stealing Venezuelan oil. Good job everbody. 👍

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Well. At least it will guarantee the USA's eventual fall from power.

Can you imagine the tech bros and anti-intectuals groveling to rejoin the scientific community?

Unfortunately science is not a morality structure.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 4 points 15 hours ago

Stay positive buddy.stay positive buddy, if oil become obsolete the struggle of the us will end. Their trouble is price of oil. They need to inject oil in the system to reduce price and stay competitive with solar, etc. And they have to attack other country to maintain the system. It stay viable for long they will have to go renewables.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 145 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Just a few years ago US labs were the first to generate more power than they put into a fusion reactor, it was one of the most important breakthroughs to date in fusion.

Even under the shitheap Trump, the US is continuing to research into fusion and building stellarators such as Infinity 1 in Tennessee.

Europe likewise is leading breakthroughs such as with Wendelstein 7-X stellarator in Germany lasting for 43 seconds. This is being improved with the new Proxima Alpha stellarator being built.

China’s EAST reactor had a breakthrough when they achieved 1,000 seconds last year. While Europes recent ITER tokamak should be achieving its first plasma in the coming years.

Fusion is a global effort, and scientists are benefiting from the works being put in elsewhere. Stellarators and Tokamak are both breaking new grounds each year, and each has their own pros and cons.

Don’t fall for any propaganda trying to claim anyone is “winning”.

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago

These comment sections can be a place of puerility and defeatism. Thanks for being the difference.

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[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 103 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (43 children)

I'm not a fan of China (government)... at all. But when I check all the technological breakthrough they are getting in these last years while the US was inflating his fucking ai-bubble. Objectively, they are getting so far ahead is not even funny. At least Europe is on a good track themself.

[–] ji59@hilariouschaos.com 8 points 10 hours ago

I wouldn't blame AI, I would say that overall the US is becoming more and more anti-science overall. Just look how people are against vaccines or flat-earthers. Even academics are leaving US because of funding cuts by the current administration. Schools are in bad shapes...

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 8 points 13 hours ago

Nothing they've done in recent years is ground breaking.

Room temperature superconductors? Fake.

Self-driving bus using painted lanes for navigation? We have trains and trams for that.

Thorium reactor? Germany had one in the 80s, shut it down because it was expensive, there's around 20 different projects happening in Europe and North America to make it more efficient.

The fusion reactor from the article? They maybe potentially hypothetically achieved one breakthrough of the dozens still needed to make fusion viable.

Etc., etc.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 19 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The overwhelming majority of their so called breakthroughs are just media fluff pieces though. Their sources are more and more often AI generated studies and their supposed advancements aren‘t going anywhere a lot of the time. By the time people start asking questions and want to know more details they have already prepared another story for you to be impressed by. It‘s shock and awe.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 10 points 14 hours ago

I've been seeing articles like these for the past at least 10 years, it is always "New China brrakthrough, can make drinkable water from enriched uranium" or some shit. It is never scalable, sustainable, or usable, and is never really widely, used or adopted. It is always technology, pharmaceutics, construction, or energy related.

They like to fake their image to the world and have been trying for very long. The only thing they succeeded at larger scale is oppresion, tracking of people, and selling knockoffs. Of course, mass manufacturing cannot be omitted.

[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

At leas we won't have to repect their patent...

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[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 34 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

I'm no China expert but I lived In South China for a while between 2016 and 2024. The Chinese people I know are mostly hardworking, very motivated to succeed, and well capitalized. In their major cities you might be surprised to learn normal guys who earn half what you do are living a higher quality of life than you are, in terms of access to technology.

Their government is no doubt using uncouth methods to give their country unfair advantages. They don't play well with others.

But holy shit there is one thing this Chinese government is doing well: effectively driving growth with targeted investments in the economy. They have been focused on that one mission consistently for a long time.

While democracies fuck around trying to decide if they should tax themselves to build public transportation, China installs 10 new ultrafast subway lines in just a few years in every big city. Covers the country in a network of high-speed rail. Drives the price of shipping goods around the country to almost nothing.

A kind of monoparty like China has is very likely a net negative when we look at world history, but for moments of time, if it's the right one, amazing things can happen.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

One thing I've been impressed with China for is moving towards greener technologies. They're a leader in solar, their EV's are apparently very good (not that I can get one here to verify that), and they're pretty dogged in their pursuit of nuclear energy.

Meanwhile USA is apparently still in "let's overturn regimes and take over other countries for the oil companies" mode

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