That would be the ultimate win for Putin: Destruction of the NATO.
this post was submitted on 09 Jan 2026
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Canada has the world's longest undefended border with the US. There's no hope if the US invades. It would be like Russia invading Ukraine with no mountains in the way
This would be impossible to hold we would lose it the second we stopped dumping hundreds of billions per year and would never own anywhere but islands of fascism where our troops were concentrated.
We would suffer continuous losses and the whole world except Russia and China would turn against us.
We would probably suffer economic collapse as other countries dropped dollars and exchange rates shifted against us while war creates a need for tax money which can only be raised by taxes which are unpopular or tariffs which further destroy trade.
If Congress doesn't get behind attacking Canada Trump could only fund it by misappropriating money or raising tariffs.
Ultimately we lose Canada and end up in the next great depression
We are seriously in a good position right now in EU believe it or not. Trump has been a wakeup call, and we are already mobilizing faster than - ever? - however, imagine being Canada, australia, Japan, etc. Countries far far away from Europe. If nato dies, Europe makes a new defense alliance, focussing on having troops on the, continent. Canada and australia needs to come closer to Europe. Trade wise, militiary wise, political, if they don't wanna get sucked up in the strongest superpower nearby, even if they have anything in common or not.
If Trump invades, does article 5 trigger against a nato member?
There is no nato if this happens.
I knew this would happen eventually, I just thought it would happen after my lifetime
Some countries in Europe are starting to, and given what Europe is, that's probably the best they can start doing.
At least because they made sure to show us their hand at their latest sonic weapons and information warfare used to shut down weapons that was used in the Venezuela attack. They would probably go the same route with Europe, trying to behead whatever strategic target is going to get them what they want, because they can't go for a prolonged conflict either.
Experts.... who the fuck are these experts.
They're not experts they're just some random ~~think tank~~ milane actors with a political goal which means they're just arrogant people who like telling everybody else what to do largely with zero qualifications.
Prepare yourself. Go buy a good quality action camera.
with lots of film. get the high speed stuff, to shoot all the "action".
If it really happens, shut down all the US military installations in Europe and European territories. The Red Coats should tell the US to leave Diego Garcia too.
They can't even shut down the base in Greenland. There's a reason DeGaulle kicked the US out in 1966. And why Okinawa residents have been lobbying to shut down the local base for decades.
Europeans have been under military occupation since the end of WW2, telling themselves the gun pointed at the back of their heads was aimed at the USSR, even after it dissolved.
Now they're going to have to deal with a foreign hostile occupation whose roots have grown deep
The pandering to Trump has been an element of our strategy over the last year
Nobel price of ...war
Nobel war prize
Why can't NATO still exist without the US? The alliance could still stick together even if the US shits the bed. God damn why am I typing this? WW3 is about to start and I have no idea what the fuck is going on in my country anymore.
Canada needs nuclear weapons as a deterrent against the American threat. Inshallah.
Challenging, but not impossible. I think the military budget of all other NATO members combined would just be about the same as the US. However, it's not like every country has its own independent "mix of everything"; they are supposed to work supplemental. What makes things worse is proprietary hardware and software in modern equipment such as planes. I'm not sure to which degree it would even be technically possible to use it to defend against the USA.
Then there is the nuclear weapon problem. France and UK would have to really stand their ground and follow through with nuclear retaliation. That means that even when the USA or Russia just use a small tactical nuke in Poland, Greenland or wherever, they'd have to use one of their few strategic nukes to destroy something big, possibly dooming Paris. The downside of the idea of mutually assured destruction always was that it only works with somewhat reasonable people who REALLY are not willing to take their entire civilisation with them. But since Stalin, there have never been nutjobs like Trump or Putin in charge, neither in the USSR, nor US, nor Russia.
A victorious Ukraine would certainly be an incredible asset to have in NATO, with all those battle-hardened, highly educated people.
But all things considered, might as well give it a try.
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Meaning while, USA citizens are waiting for mid term elections! Trump most likely will leave or court will do something. Sit and watch, do nothing.
Why would Trump leave that's antithesis to his entire personality. Sticking around long after it's clear that everyone hates him, claiming some sort of conspiracy, that's more his style.
The feudalists behind Trump made the mistake to give the population a chance to bring him down once... they won't repeat it. Also, if I remember correctly the SCOTUS granted the POTUS immunity for any action commited during his presidency. So whether Trump an others will be helf accountable his highly questionable to me... even if he loses the election in 3 years.
Trump will be free but every fucking one of his minions will not ... because they don't have the same immunity.
If there's a power shift after midterms and the Dems make inroads, be prepared to watch Trump scream bloody murder 'cause he can't always have his own way.
Unfortunately I (non-american) hear close to nothing from the Dems since ~ 12 months. Given their inactivity and assumed unwillignes to figth against the rise of Trumps dictatorship I have little hopes that the midterms change anything... also given that Trump seems to ignore the parliaments whenevwr he likes.
dems aren't going to do shit lol
The same rulings mean that a future president can just lock him up without trial.... Which probably means there won't be any future (non-Trumpian) president, unfortunately.
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