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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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ALLIES

!abolition@slrpnk.net

!acab@lemmygrad.ml

r/ACAB

r/BadCopNoDonut/

Randy Balko

The Civil Rights Lawyer

The Honest Courtesan

Identity Project

MirandaWarning.org

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

Black Lives Matter

Campaign Zero

Innocence Project

The Marshall Project

Movement Law Lab

NAACP

National Police Accountability Project

Say Their Names

Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration

 

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Right after ICE Agent Johnathan Ross executed a US citizen in cold blood

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[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 2 days ago

Make no mistake, the court and law system are supposed to operate under the presumption of innocence. If someone sees a video of someone else murdering someone then the law will do their thing (or try and the FBI will block the investigation... classy) but people who actually watch the video footage from multiple angles can come to their own conclusions.

Btw i knew Jonathan Ross checked his mask after walking back from the vehicle but watching the footage again he also checked his mask IMMEDIATELY after firing, before even putting the gun back in it's holster....The kind of thing you'd do if you're thinking "oh shit i just fucked up, i hope they don't figure out my name is Jonathan Ross."

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 38 points 2 days ago

Normally a group of people perverting the course of justice by covering up each other's crimes is called a criminal conspiracy. As an aside, what about female cops? Do they have their own gender-segregated old girls club or do they need a male 'sponsor' to get the same ass-coverage?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 34 points 2 days ago
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As has been said before, and will be said again:

Fuck The Police.

They exist to enrich themselves, have a powertrip as a day job, gain a higher effective class of citizenship, and to protect the property rights of the oligarchs.

Anything else they ever do is basically an accident, an incidental, occasional side effect stemming from the particular manner in which they carry out their actual purposes for existing.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

I do love how these kinds of memorandums do absolutely nothing to address how everyone else feels. The complete and total "our side of the story and counterpoints are just invalid" rhetoric speaks entire libraries about values, priorities, and why things aren't going so great. Meanwhile the FOP is using this tragedy to grandstand and speak about how they feel attacked by everyone not wearing a badge, even though they weren't invited to this party. I want to say it's in poor taste, but that doesn't quite capture just how ugly a thing this is to do.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Fucking ewwwwwwwww

[–] Windhover@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Now please give us a donation…

[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 days ago

I think not murdering people would make your jobs less difficult and dangerous.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Yet when immigrants are accused of being illegal they do not get the presumption of innocence. Fucking hypocrites the lot of them.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

the fuck is a Fraternal Order of Police?

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A union for union busters.

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

A union for union busting class traitors which advocates for complete immunity for it's members.

[–] sulgoth@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 22 points 2 days ago

In other news criminal gang stand with criminal gang

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 17 points 2 days ago

Wow. That’s some heavy DARVO right there.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 days ago

Cops are on the side of the cops. Don’t be fooled by copaganda where local police are pushing against the feds or the DoJ put a local police department under a consent decree. We need to be pushing to abolish the police and let these violent assholes try to get away with their bullshit when they don’t have their gang with them.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Goosestepping in solidarity.

[–] cadekat@pawb.social 16 points 2 days ago

Fops, the lot of them

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean you stand by the likely guilty and defend their actions. Either you wait for proof - demanding due process - or you stay silent.

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[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago

the "court of public opinion" doesn't fucking exist. we shouldn't ignore the fact that this rhetoric is word for word what rapists say to paint themselves as the victim when their real victims inform anyone they've been raped. civilians don't have any powers to arrest cops, even if they persecution fetish their way into thinking they do. they frame the public hate of cops as an act of violence because every accusation is an admission with fascists. this should be treated as hate speech because they're implying that the freedom of speech of abolitionists should be abolished to soothe their feewees and make their klannish actions as cops go away from public view

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Remember that time protestors burned the 3rd precinct in Minneapolis? That was fucking rad.

[–] wavebeam@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

ACAN

Originally this was a typo I fixed, but I changed it back after I decided that it was still correct: All Cops Are Nazis

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

He deserves the exact same due process that Renee received.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 7 points 2 days ago

So what they're saying is that the police are valid military targets in the war on terror? Is that it?

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

Of course, they are all the governments hired thugs after all.

[–] Red_October@piefed.world 9 points 2 days ago

Pig bitch cowards whining that ICE fascists and Cops are publicly condemned for their wrongdoing while ignoring the fact that they're being condemned for sending people not convicted, or even accused, of a crime to prison camps and summarily executing people on the street. It's the sort of tone deaf pig shit that would get a writer laughed out of the room for being a hack.

The Fraternal Order of Police can fuck all the way off. Jackbooted fascists to the last. Bitching about being convicted "In the court of public opinion" while they literally murder people in cold blood and face zero real consequences just belies how fucking braindead their kind really are.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 8 points 2 days ago

Shit is mad tone deaf and hypocritical. Like they're not even sure what situation went down but they need to look tough.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Does anyone have a link? I am trying to confirm if this is real.

I can’t find any official links for this release, but it does have similarities to statements made by FOP in October.

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[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Shut the fuck up, Porky!

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