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[–] evol@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People who talk about how college makes you "Enlightened", "Well Rounded", etc. always baffle me. These elite prestigious institutions graduate some of the most evil and diabolical human beings driven purely by greed and prestige. Socrates was wrong guys you don't have to keep defending him

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People who talk about how college makes you “Enlightened”, “Well Rounded”, etc. always baffle me.

Being a young twenty year old living apart from your parents among your peers with lots of free time to study and develop your talents enlightens you and rounds you out.

Universities are great because they facilitate that kind of social and intellectual development.

These elite prestigious institutions graduate some of the most evil and diabolical human beings driven purely by greed and prestige.

Evil people congregate in everywhere. I wouldn't put this on universities specifically

[–] evol@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Being a young twenty year old living apart from your parents among your peers with lots of free time to study and develop your talents enlightens you and rounds you out.

I really never got this from my time at university, I guess I'm curious what "enlightenment" you felt you got out of it.

Evil people congregate in everywhere. I wouldn’t put this on universities specifically

Agreed but I get annoyed at people who have this idea of if we just educate everyone -> utopia and that conservatism is a function of undereducation, just look at what party german universities supported in the 1930s. It leads to kind of whigist thinking where we see more education happening -> more enlightened people -> better people when in the end its really just a tool

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

I guess I’m curious what “enlightenment” you felt you got out of it.

I met people from a variety of backgrounds, including people who'd grown up overseas. I had roommates for the first time, which gave me a taste of living with others who didn't share my same habits or hygiene. I started dating seriously for the first time. Experimented with alcohol and a few other substances. A bunch of friends came out of the closet. I spent every summer doing a different low wage job - grocery store, teacher, assembly line worker, entry level paid worker on a political campaign. Put more miles behind the wheel in my freshman year than my entire life previously. Got to watch a particle accelerator fire and buy a homeless guy a drink at a local bar.

Idk how to really nail it down in simple terms, but I had such a broader exposure to the rest of the world in those university years.

Agreed but I get annoyed at people who have this idea of if we just educate everyone -> utopia and that conservatism is a function of undereducation

Oh, I agree. Some of the worst reactionaries are college educated. I don't think college makes you liberal.

What's the old saying? "A Conservative is just a Liberal that's been mugged by reality"?

I had more than a few diehard Republicans in my friend group in college. Like, I got to meet the kind of people you just see shit talking on CrossFire IRL. People who unironically thought we should do genocide in Iraq because these were subhumans who had forfeited their right to life. People who were in Engineering because they wanted to build the bombs we were dropping in Afghanistan. People who used the hard-r at the end of the n-word just to prove they could.

Also incredibly enlightening.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Socrates was wrong guys

Yeah, he was, about a lot. But what specifically do you mean?

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where are the American people up to so far now in the “First They Came” sequence?

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Those were the good 'ole days?

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 29 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Oh you misunderstand, he knows the law well. He just knows how to use it as a tool to protect the elites from accountability and as a bludgeon to punish the people for non-compliance, as well as how to make sure that never gets flipped.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Had someone unironically suggest that if Trump takes a third term that it would open the way for Obama to run again.

Anyone citing the old order of rules, laws, and fairness is delusional or under informed.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What he said has nothing to do with law. He just said stuff knowing that nobody will do anything to stop him. Or to stop them.

The law is extremely clear in this regard - the ICE dude murdered a person for no reason. The rules on the use of deadly force literally use a moving car as an example of when not to use deadly force - as long as there are "other defence options, such as moving out of the way".

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 days ago (13 children)

The law is extremely clear in this regard - the ICE dude murdered a person for no reason. The rules on the use of deadly force literally use a moving car as an example of when not to use deadly force - as long as there are "other defence options, such as moving out of the way".

When the people tasked with upholding the law consistently disregard it in particular circumstances - as they do when it comes to abuse of power by law enforcement - that law only exists in the circumstances in which it is consistently applied. Things like qualified immunity have effectively nullified any law that ostensibly holds law enforcement accountable. The law does not exist for any other purpose except to protect the dominant socioeconomic group in a given country without binding them, while binding the subjugated socioeconomic group without protecting them. Who is in which group is dynamic and always subject to change, but this rule almost always holds except in cases where very skilled lawyers are able to argue in court that someone in the latter group actually belongs to the former in some specific circumstance. That is the law being used for something that it was not designed to do, a bit like an exploit in a video game soon to be patched.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

correct. this is a man that admitted openly to lying about immigrants eating pets to foment hatred to fire up his voter base that already hates immigrants.

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[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The country heals when this guy dies. I hope he gets an ending he truly deserves.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What clown world are you living in? The cults needs deprogramming, that doesn’t just happen automatically.

Furthermore, all of these corporations and their associated billionaires and whatnot are not just going to pack it up and go back to playing by the rules when this admin wraps in 28.

There is no single thing that happens and triggers the country to heal. Media owned by said billionaires has grown true hatred and the like to facilitate distractionary in-fighting amongst the people.

Between the culture wars and keeping people desperate and sick with rising costs, tying healthcare to labor, etc. Trump is a symptom, a useful idiot.

We have much bigger problems that do not start nor end with Trump or his admin.

[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

That’s is all true and what I’ve said doesn’t change. Vance is one of the main people conspiring to “program” the base for his billionaire owners.

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 114 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trumps gonna want to give the murderer the congressional medal of honour

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Thiel went to Stanford law ….I think a lot of these evil morons prove that these Ivy League schools are crap

[–] Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The Ivy League is overrated, community college and khan academy are underrated

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

100%. I think I did college every possible way (except ivy league). First two years at a small liberal arts college, left because tution went way up and scholarship stayed the same. Three yeara at a big univeraity, where i switched majors and graduated with a bunch of useless paper in time for the 2009 financial crisis. Never found a career and went back to community college for a focused degree. All had good and bad aspects but community college i thought was the best learning experience.

Part of that may have been due to already being loaded up on gen ed credits, so i could focus on just the degree classes. It was also the fact that the teachers were real people who had experience in the field rather than career academics.

[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

They’re not “smarter”. They just are better connected.

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[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is the murderer absolutely immune from a person who wants to take revenge?
Yeah, ok, the murderer may never meet his legal and justified consequences but will the Nazi government of america always be there to protect him?

Now, obviously, ;⁠-⁠);⁠-⁠) , I'm not saying a person should find this guy and do unto him what he has done unto others. Nope. No way...

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

This is a perspective that the leadership in general should keep in mind.

They are relishing in ignoring laws and treaties and just opting out of consequences. Generally people understand that honoring laws and elections leaves the populace broadly with a sense of justice even with misdeeds and the punishments are, generally, pretty light. Even the light punishments satisfy people.

Continually flaunting these mechanisms and denying people a civilized path to feelings of justice and being heard is a dangerous thing.

It's why the control bounces back and forth between two sinilar political parties, most people get a sense of "my team won" or "my team will probably win next time" and this placates people. To decide to nope out of these conventions is to invite great risk.

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[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 70 points 3 days ago (2 children)

He's not wrong. There is absolute immunity for Trump friendly crimes, also known as presidential pardon.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (4 children)

That's federal immunity. Doesn't apply to state crimes.

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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Not absolute, state charges are not subject to federal pardons.

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 days ago

George W Bush went to Yale. That tells you everything you need to know about their standards.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago
[–] borQue@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago

As expected. The Gestapo did exactly the same 90 years ago. Thanks to Trump evolution did not only stop: it went back 90 years. And the American people (just as the German) cannot do anything to stop him anymore. Sad times, sad times.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)

We need some Nuremberg trials.

[–] ohmy_science@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

And rid the government of maga, a la denazification after ww2

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[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

this was such an unhinged rant

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