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[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 74 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Anybody ever read the Godfather book? It's... kinda weird. Every time a new character is introduced, it's goes into their sexual history. Like, do we really need to know Rocko is an attentive lover with a string of girlfriends that he has no trouble keeping satisfied before he goes and kills some dude?

And then there's a part of the book that is about.. How do I put this...

a woman getting a pussy tightening surgery.

It's the bridesmaid that Sonny fucks in the closet at his sister's wedding. She sought out Sonny, as did all the other women "with big mouths and wide hips" because he had a legendarily big cock and it was her only hope to get any pleasure, on account of her gigantic pussy and all.

After he dies, she tried to commit suicide. Not because she cared for him, she just figures she'll always be alone because no one else in the world will have a cock that will be adequate to work with her ginormous pussy.

But much later in the book, she's living at the family casino in Nevada, and her doctor boyfriend finally talks her into having sex and discovers her pussy is huge and convinces her that he knows a great plastic surgeon that can fix it. It walks through the consultation and surgery and everything. Not in explicit detail, but, like, it's so weird.

And there's weird comments like (not a quote) "Don't worry, doll. I do great work. I'll fix you up so nice he'll be calling me every day to thank me." Shit like that.

And it worked. After she has the surgery and they have sex, her doctor boyfriend immediately proposes to her.

So, anyway, yeah... I don't know why they left the great pussy tightening subplot out of the movies.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 5 days ago

do we really need to know Rocko is an attentive lover with a string of girlfriends that he has no trouble keeping satisfied

How else are we supposed to relate to that character?

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Please, dont ever read Stephen kings IT.

Its...deeply fucked up. It includes a child group sex act that happens right before they confront IT directly, which empowers them to defeat it.

The context is more complicated than the above and is partly about a girl addressing being sexually abused by her father and partly about leaving adolesence for adulthood, but it is...a lot.

Like most his books back then, the byline should have said "Cocaine, with Stephen king."

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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

So, anyway, yeah… I don’t know why they left the great pussy tightening subplot out of the movies.

well you know, I'm beginning to think this Coppola fellow simply didn't know true art when he saw it, after reading all that. That could've been a wonderfully surreal addition to spice up the trilogy.

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[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 33 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I feel like a lot of these films are important because they did something first. The problem is that it doesn't mean that film did it best.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I've always talked about The Rolling Stones like this. I respect what they did, but I was born when rock had really gone beyond it. The Beatles too for the most part. Even a lot of '80s punk. I wanted faster, heavier, more technical. All the old stuff just felt basic to me, but I know it's a matter of perspective.

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And then there's movies like Dr Strangelove, where I had no idea that old movies could be that entertaining still. Though it has been at least a decade since I watched it, I bet it still stands, even if it invented the iconic "ride a nuke like a cowboy" image.

Also the whole Soviets built a doomsday device but didn't tell the world about it, which reality copied (eventually they told the world).

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[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 16 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I believe there's a copypasta/good comment floating around out there from the reddit days that details everything that has been referenced about the godfather films, and so, if you watch many movies that are popular or considered good, you've already seen almost everything that stands out in the godfather films. Throw in the great many improvements in cameras, acting methods/filming techniques, and the 'drift' that means one generation prefers certain tropes/themes/scenes/actions over others, and of course an older film is going to be less entertaining for us.

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 67 points 5 days ago (4 children)
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[–] Zink@programming.dev 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you are a user of any mind altering substances, or have any interest in starting, it might be worth giving the movie or show another try in that state. Assuming your chosen goodies leave you coherent and able to form memories, lol.

And it's not just to put you in a good mood, though that certainly helps. Maybe it's just the spicy neurons in my case, but being high can qualitatively change the experience of how I relate to characters. (not extreme like empathy on / empathy off, sometimes things might just land different)

It's easier to read the subtext and make connections, catch Easter eggs, etc. Although sometimes your brain is just making shit up.

I got super stoned before I watched RoboCop 2 a few months ago, which I hadn't seen before. Holy shit the satire is deeply baked into every scene. I was laughing more than I have in years.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 5 days ago (5 children)

If you don't care for it, don't let people make you watch it.
No one (sane) will go "Oh! you have to go to this 4 hour 17th century italian Opera with me! You will love it!" .

You don't "have to" value any kind of art. If you don't, you don't. That said, it might be worth trying at least once, you never know if you find something that stays with you.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

It insists upon itself.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I have the opposite issue. I tend to only enjoy older films. Recent films tend to have this digital colour-graded look and a style of editing (millions of 1 second cuts) that make them pretty much unwatchable for me.

I really love films that take their time, both in plot and character development, as well as in how shots develop to establish the scenes. I also have a passion for photography and for me that’s a really big part of films. I want to see beautiful photographs that took a lot of time and experience to set up (and wait for the right moment, in the case of outdoor scenes). I love practical effects that were built and painted by hand, explosions rigged with real explosives, much more than CGI.

I think there is an issue with attention spans though. The modern films that I mentioned above seem to be ideal for people with short attention spans, whereas older films tend to be boring for these folks. This makes it hard for films to appeal to both audiences!

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[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 41 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Everyone in this thread is wrong.

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[–] tino@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The Godfather is far from being a difficult movie to watch. It has a rich story, plenty of action, great scenes,... You want serious stuff? Try Nouvelle Vague French movies from Eric Rhomer or Jean-Luc Godard, German or Finnish movies where absolutely nothing happens and it's just people eating soup. Try Jim Jarmusch's Stranger than Paradise. It's great, it's a classic, but you're going die out of boredom if The Godfather is already too much for you.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Yeah, some of these criticisms are bad just on their face. Godfather is too slow for you? Come on. Is Rambo to slow for you as well? What about Speed?

Some of this just feels like kids who just graduated from watching Paw Patrol deciding they should veto what anyone else puts on the TV.

If you want to throw a fit because everything isn't Marvel, I guess that's fine for you. But don't be shocked when you're not invited back to College Movie Night.

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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You should watch 2001 A space Odyssey it is exactly like this.

It is a historical documentary set in the early days of AI and Space Travel before SpaceX and ChatGPT, it's kinda neet to see how far we've came in such a short time though.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

In 2006 I fell asleep watching that movie. Highly recommend falling asleep watching that movie. The background noise is artistically stunning and sleep-promoting soothing.

It's art. I love the movie. I appreciate the aesthetics, the cinematography, and the practical effects.

[–] cl4p_tp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago

Oh man. I fell asleep 5 times before I could finally finish this.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (5 children)

You know what my favorite food is? A plain pepperoni pizza. Absolutely love it.

You can take me out to dinner to the fanciest restaurant: five Michelin stars, the best trained chefs, the most expensive ingredients, the perfect ambience… and it would be utterly wasted on me. Because nothing beats a plain pepperoni pizza.

Some people are like that with movies. Even movies which are objectively some of the best ever produced in the history of cinema, will have people who don’t like them. And that’s perfectly fine.

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[–] M137@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

And then, sometimes, you watch it years or decades later and it clicks. And other times you are just convinced everyone who likes it are saying so because critics like it.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not only do I love the Godfather and The Godfather Part 2, but this past weekend my wife and I watched the Godfather Epic. It's the first two movies edited together in chronological order. It's a bit more than 7 hours in one movie.

It would probably kill you.

Yesterday afternoon, my wife had a doctor's appointment at the hospital. When she was in the lobby, someone was playing the Godfather theme on a piano. Then I see this post. The universe can seem weird sometimes.

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (6 children)

I think I nodded off like 3 times when watching Dune. It's just so damn boring.

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[–] trslim@pawb.social 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Blade Runner for me. Great themes, great plot, great visuals and music, horrendously boring and plodding. 2049 was better imo.

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[–] halvar@lemy.lol 15 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I was like this with 2001: A Space Odessy. I love Kubrick, I love sci-fi, I even like art that may require a change in perspective/that is more abstract and I'm an old movie buff. Yet Space Odessy wasn't for me for some reason. It's long, streched-out and has some scenes you wish would already end by the second minute, yet they last for 20. I liked the surreal bits a lot but for the almost 3 hours it took to watch it I really can't say I was entertained.

I ended up watching Interstellar later and while it's far from Space Odessy in artistic value I ended up feeling that was more like the movie I wanted Space Odessy to be. Obviously they are not very similar but it had some concepts that without watching I hoped Kubrick already figured out for some reason.

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[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 11 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Ugh, lord of the rings. I tried watching it alone, with friends, with a girlfriend... Nope, just boring

[–] Wessynessy@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Dojan@pawb.social 25 points 5 days ago (7 children)

I felt this way about the book 1984. Entirely overrated.

Like yes I get that the subject matter is what makes it important, but plenty of other books (and other media) has covered it and done a better job of it. Plus, now we get to live it making the book wholly irrelevant.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 79 points 5 days ago (13 children)

That's an issue you can run into with many classics. Either they did something so well it's become a trope, or the artistry in it has been refined so much that the original feels like a poor imitation.

A great example in film is Citizen Cane. It used a lot of ground breaking approaches for cinematography and sound design, but those things aren't ground breaking anymore, so watching it now doesn't have the same "excitement". A more modern example might be Toy Story; the animation doesn't look too impressive by modern standards, but was ground breaking at the time.

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[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I've always been curious about Citizen Kane. I haven't seen it. Is it boring too?

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think citizen Kane received a lot of praises for technical achievements such as using double exposures and being the first to do a lot of um... cinematic... cinematography. More interesting to watch someone talking about it than to watch the actual movie itself 😅

[–] Venat0r@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

yep. a movie i found more engaging from the black and white era was 12 angry men

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As with everything, it all depends on what you find boring.

There's no action in Citizen Kane. There's a small mystery who's answer you may have seen in other media without knowing. Mostly it is a biography about a fictional character, complete with interviews with friends and enemies of said character (the titular Kane). You only actually get to see and know the character through flashbacks.

It should be noted that the character is actually based partly on a real person.

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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 19 points 5 days ago (8 children)

On one level, if I like something and you don't, we are both right. But there are times when I have to admit I just don't have the background and knowledge to appreciate it. I can't deal with Jazz. I don't get it. I'm not going to say it's not good, just because I don't get it.

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[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Harry Potter 6 for me. I could not get through this movie. I tried it about 5 times so far. Same with the book. I tried reading it at least 10 times including listening to it as an audiobook.

It's just insufferable.

(And don't worry, Rowling-haters, I of course pirated it except of the copy of the book that I got when I was a kid)

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I mean, is anything Harry Potter considered fine art? That's what the meme meant by cinema

[–] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I would argue that yes, the first movie is fine art, it was literally genre defining and captured a large majority of youths minds when it was released

Just because its technically a "kids movie" doesn't make it not art

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