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Replacing the function keys with a capacitive bar was the stupidest thing they have ever done. So silly that even Apple walked back on that design choice.
Any serious laptop buyer would rule out a laptop just for that. And any casual buyer looking to spend XPS money on a laptop is going to buy a MacBook.
I'm glad the XPS line is back but unfortunately for Dell Windows is worse than ever.
My work gave me a Mac with this. I absolutely hated it - constantly triggering random things I didn't want or need and apparently something about the wiring caused the physical keyboard to fail prematurely.
Fortunately we've moved on from those dark days. I still have to use a Mac, but at least there's no touch bar.
And the worst part is, Apple has a lot more influence over software on MacOS than Dell does over software on Windows. Meaning Apple was able to influence at least some (though not most by any measure) 3rd party developers to make the touchbar context aware. I somehow doubt Dell had any such luck, so it would've been even worse than the Apple touchbar which was already shit.
In fact, had Apple included it in their whole lineup for a few years, it could've actually been useful. But Airs and 2 TBT3 13" Pros never got it, neither did the ubercrappy 12". A huge issue was the lack of adoption by developers (because to make it truly useful, they'd have to customize the touchbar for their application), but why would the developers have been motivated to do it if the thing wasn't even on every new device sold.
When I last bought an XPS 13, there was an option for Ubuntu. I agree that many people will choose a Macbook, but the XPS line has been decent. Perhaps someday they will discover the third OS option.
Also Lenovo, who were the first ones to give than nonsense a whirl (X1 Carbon Gen 2, 2014).
Lenovo's was present for just that single generation. Apple kept it for 6 generations over 7 years. Dell 4 generations, 3 years.
Can't say I'll miss any of them.
Build quality for Dell is down over the past few years
Hijacking top comment to report that: This is true across the industry for (most) OEMs
The Secret is to buy "Enterprise level"
Check out the LATITUDE line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Latitude
Those are enterprise fleet laptops ... the ones they have to support for 5-10 years.
You know which line they don't discontinue parts for? You know which line has repair manuals and driver updates available? wanna take a wild guess which line is usually more modular and powerful at the expense of being less sleek looking and thin?
And the best part is that you can usually buy them fairly cheap if you find them used.
I prefer Dell Latitude to HP Elitebook, Thinkpads are OK too but they've gone down in quality a lot since they got bought by Lenovo
TL;DR = Buy an enterprise level laptop, consumer line laptops are all trash,
Replying to my own comment to give yall one more tidbit.
The latitude product nomenclature is still standard
So for example the Latitude 9460 is the very high end laptop that came out at the beginning of this year while the 3540 was the entry level economy latitude that came out in 2023
Lenovo has been making thinkpads for 20 years. The complaint that their quality is still less than how laptops were manufactured 2 decades ago feels rather dated.
Top tip, buy a used enterprise laptop. You can get one hell of a deal when big companies throw their entire lineup out after a few years and flood the market. Some have a few scuffs here and there, but others are mint after sitting plugged to a dock for the last three years in a row.
Might need a new battery though, so research how easy it's to swap and calculate that in the cost just in case.
The Latitudes are balls in the worst way. Including the new "Pro" models. I've had i7 and i9 Latitudes that are slower than my i5 XPS 13, and yeah that thing sucks too but at least it sucks predictably.
Ha, I thought a 1Hz display was a typo until I read the article - that's the minimum display update, not the maximum: for situations when nothing's changing on the screen to save battery life.
I'll never buy an xps again. Last one needed pretty much everything replacing, and within 3 years dell stopped manufacturing the battery!!
$2k on a laptop that's a brick within 3 years?
Framework 13 all the way
I cancelled my framework 16 order because of their "big tent" policy meaning they give funding to Hyperland and Omarchy, I will not give my money to people who fund racists
Eh, I get it, but you can't win every battle.
I have a 16 and a 13. I bought them both before that thread.
I am not expecting my single cancellation to make the slightest difference to their policy, they already made it clear that they are quite happy funding racists when multiple people have challenged them over it, and with one of their larger pots of cash they give out as well.
What I am getting out of is knowing I am not (indirectly) funding racists myself, rather than knowingly funding racists. I do not see it any different from buying products from Musk, if you did it ages ago then fine, but after, thats something else entirely.
I get it, but also if I stopped buying everything from every racist / racist supporter, I would have no real options for laptops generally speaking.
Michael Dell is a complete and total Trump supporter. Should I buy an XPS?
Tim Cook designed and delivered a custom award to Trump. Knowing this, should I buy an Apple?
I understand wanting to vote with your dollars but in practice there are few or no ethical options for many things that you can buy.
I'm a little miffed with framework actually.
I had a order with them that they chose to cancel because they just randomly charged the account one day months after I had pre-ordered something, and there wasn't enough money in the account because I didn't know when they were going to charge for it. They didn't contact me or anything, they just cancelled the order. Thanks guys.
Edit: Deleted an extra word
I never ordered a Framework before but I'm planning to do this year. Isn't that how it's supposed to be? Last time I visited their site it was written that you pay a reserve price at the time of order, then they charge your card later with the remainig price before they ship it.
Right but who has like three grand just sitting in a checking account, that shit in a savings account because I'm not Bill Gates and I need every penny I can get from the interest? If they're not going to tell you at the time that you pre-order when they're going to bill you, then they need to contact you ahead of time or that's going to keep happening.
These fuckers have no USB-A ports but has a headphone jack?
Buy a Framework, I have 4 slots that can be everything from USB-A to C to RJ45 to card readers when I need it, and I can charge the thing from any port.
The correct way, really
I miss my clitmouse XD
what the fuck is a 1 HZ display option
It dynamically regulates the refresh rate down to 1hz to save energy, it's like an LTPO panel on a phone
1 Hz display option
Btw, is there something like Adaptive Sync for display servers? Although most devices' drivers only allow for 30 or 20 Hz minimum, automatic change from energy saving (reading static text) to high refresh (scrolling text, playing video) would be neat.
And while we're on it: recalculating all 4 million pixels just because you moved the cursor is kinda a clutch, no? Not to mention 30+ times in the second just because.
Back when I owned an XPS, one of the driver options was 'compressed screen updates', which only updated the part that had changed. As far as I could tell, made no difference to battery life whatsoever - turning down the screen brightness even a notch did much more.
Daily driver laptop for nearly ten years, and the part that finally failed was the CPU fan, which wasn't easy to obtain replacement parts for, so treated myself to a new laptop entirely. Mind you, the power connection was a PoS, would have been as well keeping that on an annual reorder for how often it failed. Pretty good laptop otherwise.
I was confused when I read that part of the title, I thought they accidentally typed it instead of 120. A 1hz display for all functions would be a hilarious thing to play with for a minute or two.
I probably got a lemon but regardless my XPS (~3 years old) is the worst computer I've ever owned. Touchy WiFi, battery that goes from 30 to 3℅ in a matter of seconds, randomly doesn't detect the keyboard, randomly freezes, randomly doesn't acknowledge it's plugged in. Some days I just put it in timeout and use my 10yo netbook instead.
You never contacted dell for a warranty? That definitely sounds like a lemon to me
Not the capacitive touch bar!
Just shows how well the rebranding was thought through.
