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Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Beijing cannot accept any country acting as the "world's judge" after the United States captured Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro.

The world's second-largest economy has provided Venezuela with an economic lifeline since the U.S. and its allies ramped up sanctions in 2017, purchasing roughly $1.6 billion worth of goods in 2024, the most recent full-year data available.

Almost half of China's purchases were crude oil, customs data shows, while its state-owned oil giants had invested around $4.6 billion in Venezuela by 2018, according to data from the American Enterprise Institute think tank, which tracks Chinese overseas corporate investment.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Unless it's China whose the judge, of course. They seem to find no issue judging the Uygurs as needing to die and Taiwan as their property, or the the South China Sea as their waters, or all the fish in the world as theirs to make extinct.

[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 10 points 6 days ago

or supporting Russia judging Ukraine, also totally ok.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

different from other imperialists nations, how?

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This also gives justification to North Korea. They've been arguing for ages that they should be allowed nuclear weapons because otherwise the US would come in and force a regime change, and now Trumpsky has just handed them the evidence.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

All that NK artillery was the real deterrent. Before NK developed Nukes, after the cold war the US could have relatively easily crushed them except for the incredible amount of collateral damage they could have done to SK. However, in the post Ukraine/Trump presidency age, securing a stock of nukes or joining a defense coalition that includes at least one member with nukes seems like the wise decision. Heart breaking really.

[–] Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago (8 children)

The US could also have easily crushed the Vietnamese./s

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Well... yeah, we could have.

If war was literally as simple as "kill the other person and damn the consequences" the US could have casually wiped out the viet cong at pretty much any point during the war. The political consequences for doing so were the limiting factor - an extreme example, but we could have just nuked north vietnam to glass and been done with it (and obviously that wasn't a realistic option (despite the number of times some psycho general or the other tried to advocate for it)).

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If war was literally as simple as “kill the other person and damn the consequences” the US could have casually wiped out the viet cong at pretty much any point during the war.

They tried that towards the end, sending B-52s to carpet bomb Hanoi. Dozens of planes were shot down, hundreds survived, thousands of civilians were killed. If the US continued, they would have managed to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians, but eventually they'd run out of planes before the Vietnamese ran out of people or willingness to defend themselves.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

You all act like we didnt already have dozens of nukes at that ppint and couldnt straight up glass the entire country. It wasnt capability that stopped the US is was political willpower or lack there of.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

They escalated, yes - absolutely not denying that. But the point was that they didn't just nuke the city. Winning was important, but there was a point that the consequences of winning were deemed to outweigh the victory itself.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

"we coulda won but we just didn't feel like it."

Not a very convincing argument.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's an oversimplification to the point that it really doesn't represent my argument at all, though. But to treat with what you said, I'm not sure how

The US didn't "feel" like winning the war was so important it justified nuking north vietnam

is a bad representation of the situation? The US didn't drop sarin on the ho chi minh trail, nor did they nuke Hanoi, mobilize full wartime production, draft the "desirables" etc. Politics are a massive part of any war. "An army marches on it's stomach" isn't simply a literal adage about the importance of supplies.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yet this is exactly the kind of action they fully supproted when Russia attempted the exactly same thing in 2022. And then several times since. Plus a few other atrocities.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Since Taiwan is "already part" of China, that would just be internal affairs too.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 15 points 6 days ago

They're not wrong but also the last thing those assholes want is anyone judging their shitty behavior. Ulterior Motives and all.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Aren't they only saying that so they can annex Taiwan without interference?

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

so what if they do at this point? who's to say they are the bad guys if they do it?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Taiwan is America's property in the same way that Venezuela is America's property and Greenland is America's property and Nigeria is America's property and everything is America's property.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Imagine if China claimed Hawaii or Key West, and vowed to attack with everything they had if we took back our own land?

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 6 days ago

MAGAs keep saying that this isn't about the oil because the oils fields are inoperative, and it will be at least a decade, and billions of dollars before they are getting any oil out of the ground.

Meanwhile, we've been hijacking giants tankers full of oil, and China, and other countries, have been buying billions of dollars worth every year.

It seems like there is plenty of oil coming out of Venezuela, and always has been. This is all about oil, and that's all there is to it. They can deny it, but they are proven virtuoso liars, and we don't have to believe them.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

It also cannot accept others acting as judges when it finally invades Taiwan.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 6 days ago

because you dont want attention when you eventually want to take over taiwan

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