So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something?
Frankly? Nothing. Nothing happened after Iraq, nothing happened after Afghanistan, nothing will happen after Venezuela.
this post was submitted on 03 Jan 2026
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We wait it out. It's a collapsing empire, a real war would prolong the collapse, they'res plenty of historical precedent
We're doing our best to speed run it, guys. Maybe make fun of us for healthcare more, it's a real sore spot
Well a big part of the world needs to cleanse it self of US loyalists in it's politics, military and intelligence/security. It's going to be tough, a lot of expertise is going to be lost and the rebuild is going to be hard.
After that they can boycott and sanction the USA but they need to militarize to protect themselves. Expansion of nuclear weapons is a good tactic if you can get it to happen fast. Tactical ones as well to strike at US expeditionary assets.
It's not going to be pretty, stopping the Nazis was not pretty.
We also need to get rid of dependency on USA tech companies. Right now the POTUS can shut down the European economy with an EO ordering cloud providers to stop servicing European banks.
Not easy, it will require extreme protectionist measures to allow European alternatives to thrive. It will be expensive and will probably induce a recession. But the alternative is way worse.
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Unfortunately, nothing will happen, as nobody has done anything despite the Epstein files, the deportations and externalized concentration camps, the Capitol, the international bullying and racket, etc. Trump serves the interest of the filthy rich, is backed by tech nazies and other kind of moguls (and p3d0s) and commands the most powerful army in the world. His attack on Venezuela is even approved by libs. And even if Trump himself was somehow unalived, the entire system that allowed his rise to power would still be there. The ~~nazies~~ trumpists and parasitic dominant classes would still be there.
Better just declare the American hegemony dead and disengage from any form of partnership with the USA. At least, Trump has the merit of exposing the USA for what they truly are : an alienating, morally bankrupt nation and fascist empire.
STOP REPRODUCING
There's a reason that leadershit is absolutely pissing their pants about declining fertility rates.
The funny thing is that they'll try to shame us, bribe us, or even force us (e.g. via attacks on abortion rights and contraceptives). But they refuse to meaningfully address the underlying reasons why people are increasingly saying "no thanks, I'm good" regarding becoming parents.
If other countries threatened/targeted members of the heritage foundation instead of enlisted soldiers.
It's very easy (for sociopaths) to ignore threats on other people's lives.
I think a workers revolution could do the trick. Get yourselves organized down there and get some heads rolling.
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War, either world or civil. Unfortunately I don't see any other way at this point
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General strike.
My take is that US is already on massive decline. I'm not an american but I am a big fan of US and I've never seen US this weak even if you ignore how ugly it is under current leadership. I honestly don't know how US will ever recover from this trump presidency and it seems like nothing but down hill from here. It'll time for geopolitics to catch up with reality but US will never been as strong as it was 10 years ago.
As an American this is very close to my take. This leadership is weak, they've divided the country in a way in which it will likely never recover from. Global opinions of the US are in the dumpster and it would take decades of goodwill to even begin to shift opinions that the USA is actually "good" again.
The sad reality is this country will never recover to being what it was. I honestly feel like we'd be better off just saying "fuck off, do your own thing then" to the southern portion of the states, but then you'd likely have a nuclear armed failed state within a couple of decades and the evangelicals among them would probably welcome a nuclear Holocaust because they believe they'll be raptured away.
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Invading NATO territory and triggering Article 5.
Major economic crash or civil war. Or someone whacks Trump, or he croaks. Right now they're trying to speedrun Project 2025 before Trump inevitably keels over.
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This is the thing, regarding Venezuela it’s become a bit of a hot topic worldwide now, in that it’s created a controversy not in the way you would expect. See currently a lot of Venezuelans hated that guy and are happy he’s been taken. So it’s a bit hard on how to play that,
Don’t get me wrong, how trump did this and the reasons he did it are entirely greedy but at the same time a lot of terrorized individuals are now seeing him as a hero but still very oblivious to his end game on how he’s going to destroy their home for his gain yet.
From the frying pan into the fire.
he didn’t do it for them. They don’t know that yet.
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as opposed to china who recently just kidnapped a whole island of people who very clearly did not want to join china?
as opposed to russia currently invading ukraine?
as opposed to europe who is ignoring the icc and its laws demanding the the arrest of netanyahoo? and who are the weakest of the big 3 militarily by quite some margin?
i think maybe some people need to have a reality check
World War 3 isn't the answer, not with the biggest players in the defense industry being US based.
If the change in power were due to military power, the EU would have to switch to not relying on the US...which is what they're starting to do!
A more reasonable scenario would be financial: the world deciding to not use the US dollar as the currency standard and start cashing in the US debt.
The EU, China and other major trading partners (many of which are EU afilliates like Japan) could cripple the US overnight by dumping american bonds and finding new trading partners. This is already happening though in a very slow way designed to minimize damage.
To stop this immediate idiocy, Trump has to have a massive stroke, just enough to debilitate him but necessarily replace him. MAGA isn't going to blindly follow Vance cause he's got zero MAGA charisma. The GOP controlled Congress is going to be stuck between implementing 25A or not, cause if they remove Trump they're committing political suicide.
So the best bet is for a lame duck government as a whole.
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Most of these answers here are not viable because the US has leverage in almost every nation on earth.
Venezuela, Iran, Russia, China, etc are the exception, hence why they are sanctioned (and constantly suffering problems with every new CIA project) bar China which is locked in a trade war and has a sizable military to back themselves up.
You would realistically require a counter world power that offers an alternative to the US system, which used to be the USSR which no longer exists.
China is poised as the next superpower, but they haven't made any significant moves in that regard because they are wary of the USSR's downfall, and have no intention of engaging the USA in that manner (yet).
Everyone in the UN, despite all their cries, will fall in line when threatened, aside from the aforementioned exceptions.
Maybe they can just fuck with US elections online. That wont end in disaster for everyone.
Israel, Russia, and China do that in every one of our elections. The problem is that they're always trying to get the most disruptive candidate installed to weaken the US. Legitimate countries always take the stance of "we don't want to get involved with yada yada"
A handful of countries are willing to put Trumps in charge and no one else is willing to stop them or put someone more friendly to the rest of the world in charge. Our elections are influenced on social media by Russia, economically influenced by China, and candidates are paid for by AIPAC and a south African billionaire. Our elections are as much the will of the people as the direction of the wind is, and we have just as much influence over each.
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The USA will undergo spiraling inflation until it collapses in on itself.
Our federal government is far more trouble than they are worth. We should be like individual states, but united. I declare it the... United States of America! Oh, wait.
But really, we will collapse and split into collections of states, some alone, some allied with others, I'm not sure if it's officially a balkanization, but close enough.
Our state governments will replace the fed automatically and easily (easily as in possible, not easily as in staving off empty shelves, fuel shortages, etc).
Our banking will stay basically the same, because they're not even the government, the Fed is a collection of bankers representing our various super banks. They will rug pull, buy everything at bargain prices, and restart the slow march of inflation richer than ever before.
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Getting rid of the Republican party and their major billionaire donors
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Y'all remember that time a bunch of morons actually charged the capital?
And then were summarily pardoned by the person who urged them to do it?