I really don't understand why new consoles are even necessary at this point. With each new generation, the differences are less and less.
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What im hearing is that if we want those things sooner and at a reasonable price, we should do anything and everything possible to pop the AI bubble.
I admire your optimism, but I think this will get used as leverage for a push to cloud gaming. The end goal is for us to own nothing.
Edit: Spelling
I admire your optimism, but I think this will get used as leverage for a push to cloud gaming. The end goal is for is to own nothing.
They're certainly welcome to attempt selling that to me.
They won't like the outcome, but that's more of a them problem.
We'll see. I hope you're right. Similar tactics in the housing market have created situations in which rent is cheaper than mortgage payments, which is a bad portent.
I mean, I’ve already got a backlog of 100+ Steam and GOG games I haven’t played yet, plus something like 1000+ retro game ROMs, and I’m happy to go digging in the crates as it were. There are already more games available than I’ll have time to play in my lifetime.
They push cloud gaming and I go fuck off entirely.
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Doesn't that rely on everyone having a fast internet connection with a high data cap? That's not the case for a lot of people
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GeForce Now performs well but it's already seeing further limits put in place. Gamepass already saw price hikes. Amazon Luna has a terribly small library. Smaller players have to buy GPUs, memory, and processor's too and contend with AI data center induced rising power costs. Plus data center location matters a huge amount and that's still a work in progress for game streaming services and a lot of the world
Plus my Internet throttles after like 1.5TB a month. Fine for ~15mbps Netflix. Not so good for ~100mbps game streaming. Others have data caps or overage fees. There certainly are those with uncapped/unthrottled internet. I wish my neighborhood had that
Game streaming is going mainstream going to get worse short term too. Mostly pricing and worse usage limits
A midrange phone these days are power competitive with a PS4. Makes more sense for Steam's future support android APKs because of the Steam Frame to make way for Steam to be an Android game store and devs target Switch-PS4 hardware on the low end and PS5 mid/high end. Don't even entertain the idea of a PS6 level min requirements game for a game releasing this decade. Probably not even for the first half of the 2030s
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Well the pop would only cause more issues like lack of funds for anyone to even afford one of those things.
Well the pop would only cause more issues like lack of funds for anyone to even afford one of those things.
Possibly, but this doesn't diminish my desire for that bubble to pop sooner rather than later.
Console gaming now is stupid. The Xbox and PlayStation are both just x86_64 PCs with different colored plastic shells.
The PS5 base security keys got leaked, it's going to be a full fledge PC once the modders get to work. Might be the cheapest way to get ram now hah.
It will definitely boost PS5 sales. Sony loves to boast about PlayStation 2 being the best selling console in history but they conveniently leave out the reason. It’s because there are modchips and even software jailbreaks for the console. It’s why it sold super well during the end of its lifetime in low and middle income regions.
Actually the reason is it was the cheapest DVD player for ages
PS3 was also the cheapest blueray player at the time, but the weird architecture impacting game availability and lower demand for blueray movies prevented it from gaining the same popularity
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I'll be converting my PS5 to a Steam Machine once the masters have done their work.
I’d also love to have a normal PS5 partition and a Linux one. This would be the best of both worlds, but I think I’m dreaming too much😇
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Oh wut? Lol my PS5 just got a lot more interesting.
Got a Link about that?
sorry about the delay, apparently I'm only getting notified of new messages 10 hours later, even though I've been on since.
All fine. Thanks for the link
The original Xbox even had a hard drive and DVD ROM player connected by IDE cables so it didn't change much.
Indeed and two years of advancement for steamboxes / Linux gaming distros will be the nail in the coffin. These are the last of their kind.
Start by making some content for the systems you already fucking have. My ps5 gets closer to facebook marketplace every day.
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This is great news for the video game community as even Sony and Microsoft admit consoles have nowhere else to go. They are already maxed out mini PC's. So without huge graphics cards, you will see ZERO actual improvements on a 2028 console.
Save your money.
I dont want consoles to "get better" i want them to do more.
kinect was great and they killed it
1v100 was great and is kill
360 was promising us a virtual economy where pseudo-modders could make skins and sell them and they decided no
mixxer seemed great and is kill
picture in picture was great for waiting for games with really low player count but is kill
where's WoW
they stopped shipping headsets with xbox and now voice chat is basically dead.
basically everyone has phones now but theres next to no uses other than jackbox and dance game
the avatars were pretty sweet, a nice cute MTX-fueled self-insertion gimmick.
These are jsut xbox related because peasantry. I could go on and on if I put some thought into it, and what's worse is that a lot of my gripes there ACTUALLY EXISTED. They saw it could be done, did it, then just said "lol no". I dont know what game theyre playing, just creating previous work to hoard patents or some shit, but we've got perverted by graphics over the ages.
We marveled at shiny graphics/polygon count/draw distance/objects on screen because it was the most surface-level, obvious, in-your-face evidence of improvements. Nobody but tech enthusiasts really care about it. The big improvements we actually gave a shit about are the quality of life features, control schemes and shit.
Goldeneye 007 on the N64 was considered a masterpiece, and is still looked on some 30 years later with nostalgia about the good old days. Go play it if you get a chance its near unplayable because the controls are weird. The dated graphics will be jarring but theyre not what irks you.
Stardew Valley is a straight rip-off of Harvest Moon, but go play a HM game from before SV. So much of it is janky and weird.
They'll be saying theres nowhere left to go because computing power has basically plateaud but there is so much more room for improvement and innovation.
I dont want consoles to "get better" i want them to do more.
Exactly. They could give us a built-in light gun and a steering wheel, and see what indie game developers do with them!
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Good. Let's make everyone hate ai so we turn against it and regress back to a better time.
Good honestly, we don’t need another generation yet. Constraints are good for innovation.
Microsoft could justify a $1000 console if it can also be used as a full desktop computer. I couldn’t see Sony doing something similar unless they miraculously brought back Linux mode.
But I also wonder if Microsoft will take a legit attempt at salvaging the Xbox brand next generation since they’ve completely blown this one now and are making no steps to remedy it.
$1000 computer running windows 11?
At these RAM prices?
They've had the hardware for it since the first Xbox, so I assume they've gone out of their way to avoid that. I believe they want to make sure their consumers buy both an Xbox and a PC.
I mean they just announced a handheld „Xbox“ that can‘t even play Xbox games but relies on Xbox Gamepass and your PC library. They don‘t do consoles anymore.
The PS5 security keys got leaked, until they make a new hardware revision (can't be fixed with software) every existing ps5 (and maybe pro) just became fully open.
Good, that will make my GPU relevant for longer
So it's not all bad news then
Good. They can both run Cyberpunk. Games don't need to look better than that. Let's focus on porting older PC games that still have some life in them to existing consoles, and/or getting Steam running on them.
At some point we gotta say "what can we do with the tech we have" rather than looking toward the next one. Look at the Switch 2, it only has a couple games the Switch 1 can't play, and "Switch 2 Edition" of existing games... that update was completely unnecessary. But they're gonna release a big update for the biggest Switch game (Animal Crossing) in a couple weeks. Making existing games have more value.
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Who cares they will just be the same thing with more powerful hardware.
Make something new already
There won‘t really be a next Xbox. I think Microsoft made that very clear. It‘s all cloud gaming for AAA from here on out.
Or it's going to be a PC with an Xbox GUI skin and console form factor
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So y'all remember when they had more than 5 games for their consoles? Why the fuck do we need a bigger better one? The ps5 still comes off as fucking useless in my understanding so, making the tech more complex without taking care of their gaming situation is a ridiculous cash grab and serves only to isolate the industry MORE from the gaming consumer
Good, I can’t afford new shit now anyways. Gimme shit for the shit I have.
Exactly! The good part of such a shortage is that old tech can stay relevant for far longer and devs will have to optimize more.
Sometimes, therés a lot of good in a bad situation.
I want great games, not necessarly more demanding ones. The Last of Us 2 is still the most beautiful game I’ve played and I don’t really need more if it means getting new hardware.
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Has this console generation even started yet?
Heyyyy, talk about silver linings
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