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After seeing a megathread praising Mao Zedong, an actual mass killer, and a post about a guy saying "99% of westerners are 100000000000% sure they know what happened in 'Tiny Man Square' [...] the reasons for this are complex and involve propaganda [...]," I am genuinely curious what leads people to this belief system. Even if propaganda is involved when it comes to Tiananmen Square, it doesn't change the atrocities that were/are committed everywhere else in China.

I am all for letting people believe what they want but I am lost on why one would deliberately praise any authoritarian system this hard.

Can someone please help me understand why this is such a large and prominent community? How have these ideals garnered such a following outside of China?

EDIT: Thank you to everyone who has responded! This thread has been very insightful :)

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The process is probably identical to how people fall into the alt-right/far-right mindset. Their life sucks, they have connections to no-one, nobody fucks them. But then this one group start showing them sympathy and camaraderie and things start to look better.

And some of them just get born into it.

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I predict great things for this thread and a lot of "you just dont understand" coming through.

$10 says we get "your country lies and the ones we like didnt ever do anything bad".

But the pretending that political structures do no wrong is why im not interested in anything the tankies have to say as much as im not interested in what the capitalists have to say.

"Communist" and capitalist countries sit on piles upon piles of dead bodies of innocents and its comical to me to act like one is better than the other for people who don't conform.

Large political structures with single sources of power at the top that dont change for years, completely unchallenged by change, is a shitty dictatorship/oligarchy regardless of what you call it.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I too am looking forward to 90% good info with 10% really questionable shit. Actual tankies (not the "leftist I don't like" variety) remind me of the type of movies where the grandkids find their amazing, sweet grandparents are actually secret cannibals or clowns. Maybe both.

I'm totally on board, then the authoritarian, murdery shit comes out.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

the thread has amassed almost 600 comment on db0 a lot of tankies tellinn their story, go check it out 😄

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hoooooly shit you weren't kidding!

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Y'all defederated peeps are sure missing on valuable insights like "95% of Chinese citizens like China"

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's the same question as how do people fall into the "liberal" mindset?

After seeing people worship enslavers and their state... These people literally enslaved millions of people and genocided millions more. And their state continues to invade and murder people around the planet... So how do seemingly rational people accept and support this violent, racist, system that's literally destroying the planet? How can people be mad at Mao but not also every president? How do they feel complacent and self-righteous about voting for people who support genocide? The rationalizations are all over Lemmy, much more so than tankie rationalizations.

The point is that libs and tankies are basically the same thing, just worshiping a different empire. People want to feel like they're part of some global movement, regardless of whether the movement is actually evil.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Brain damage and a inability to find balance.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 months ago

First thought: Mattias Desmet's book The Psychology of Totalitarianism, may offer some insights.

... Oh, I thought I was going to have a long list of thoughts about this. But none better not already covered in that^ are yet springing to mind.

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