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Quick post about AI-free FireFox Based Browsers (Keep your Addons and avoid the Bloat) (infosec.pub)

submitted 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) by ekZepp@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Just pick one - All the Fox functionality without bloatware

Librewolf - https://librewolf.net/

Waterfox - https://www.waterfox.com/

Zen Browser - https://zen-browser.app/

More browsers here - https://alternativeto.net/category/browsers/firefox-based/

You can also use this add to disable the ~~shitload~~ ai function in many search engines in one go

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/disable-ai/

GitHub page - https://github.com/jruns/disable-ai

You can find all the links on Mastodon<

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[–] tomiant@piefed.social 4 points 11 hours ago

Hell yeah shoutout to alternativeto.net! Fucking great site.

[–] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 11 points 16 hours ago (19 children)

And at some point someone will tell me what is so horrifying about these new features? Mozilla might be the only company trying to provide privacy first AI features. What exactly is so bad here? You can even disable these features if you do not like them at all.

[–] slampisko@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

The other day I watched this video and I think it makes a very good case. https://subscribeto.me/w/7qSsYEPM2aC3D6stdZ54nq (the website is the author's peertube instance)

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

There is no such thing as a privacy first AI, unless you’ve the hardware to run the model yourself (and, you don’t).

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 5 points 15 hours ago

There different kinds of AI and some run just fine locally or even on mobile. Not everything is a big LLM.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world -1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Mozilla might be the only company trying to provide privacy first AI features.

They are not. There are boatloads of privacy friendly "AI" implementations, they just aren't very high profile.

But I do think people are over-reacting. This is a less bad approach. And if you can turn it off and leave it off, what's the big deal?

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Considering Windows is basically saying “we’re going to switch what we’ve always been and become an agenic OS, you will just talk to it and Microsoft Cloud will interpret your will (only $89 a month!)”, people are rightly scared about having all technology rug-pulled from under us.

Mozilla was one of the shining beacons of FOSS that allowed users choice and stability against corporate greed. Are you surprised that people are angry that they’re caving to the same toxic greedy behavior?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

They should be worried. It's pretty clear Mozilla's leadership has "AI fever" that every CEO seems to be going mad with.

Still though, people need to take a breath. This isn't Microsoft. And Mozilla's "local first" approach is not bowing to Big Tech and the AI conmen like everyone else is (though the reality is that hardware isn't ready for stuff outside of lightweight tasks).

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[–] anticonnor@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Any recommendations for iOS? I switched to Librewolf on my Linux pc and Fennec on my Android phone, but still have Firefox on my iPad. Looking for good alternatives.

[–] Statick@lemmy.world 25 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

All browsers on iPhone are reskinned Safari as far as I'm aware. I don't think it matters much what you pick.

I could be wrong though.

[–] compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 16 hours ago

I believe you are correct

[–] thethirdobject@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

didn't that change some time ago?

[–] Disgruntled@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago

I think it’s only Europe that is looking into that.

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[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

...leave iOS?

[–] anticonnor@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

True, I really hate iOS. I only got this iPad for the Apple Pencil and Procreate. I usually try to keep hardware until it dies, but I may need to dump this iPad for my sanity.

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social -5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, add e-waste because of corporate brand loyalty.

No one cares what you use. If it fucking works for you, keep using it.

It's exhausting keeping up with all the internet outrage over tedious shit that truly does not matter with the short amount of time we all have on this water covered rock spinning in space.

[–] anticonnor@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Where are you getting the corpo loyalty impression from my post? If I stop using the iPad, it’ll go to someone who will use it. And I wouldn’t be dropping it due to internet outrage, I just don’t like iOS at all, from its gesture controls to its locked App Store.

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social -3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

its locked App Store.

I have bad news for you if you are planning to switch to what I think you are...

Edit: ironically posted this from my Android phone.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

My netizen on the internet, GrapheneOS (what I am currently using), PostmarketOS, and LineageOS are all right over on Android devices - alongside alternate app stores like F-Droid, Accrescent, and anonymous play store front ends like Aurora.

Let's not spread lies here, m'kay?

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social -1 points 10 hours ago

What lies did I say?

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[–] yoshisaur@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Haven't used iOS in a while, but I remember Orion being really good. It can install chrome extensions and Firefox add-ons.

[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 2 points 13 hours ago

Vivaldi has been my pick for a bit. It can install Chrome add-ons but not Firefox.

They also have taken a stance not to include genAI:

https://vivaldi.com/blog/keep-exploring/

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago

Currently using Orion, it works well though I haven’t thoroughly paid attention to scrutinize it thoroughly.

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago

I use Floorp on desktop. Since I got used to it, I just can't live without that advanced sidebar. Being able to open the mobile versions of web pages right on the side is just too useful.

[–] Kyrex@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 points 17 hours ago

Mullvad Browser for the win!

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