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"There are 15 million illegal aliens," Miller said adding that "if each were given a full trial, deportations would take centuries"

White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller said in a video that went viral on Friday that undocumented immigrants are not entitled to due process protections when being removed from the United States, arguing that providing full legal proceedings would make deportations unworkable.

"There are 15 million illegal aliens," Miller said. "If each were given a full trial, deportations would take centuries. They had no due process entering the country, and they are not entitled to it when being removed."

Supreme Court precedent has long held that constitutional protections apply to noncitizens within U.S. territory. In Wong Wing v. United States (1896), the Court ruled that the Fifth Amendment's due process clause protects noncitizens from arbitrary detention or punishment.

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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Actually, a lot of them being kicked out now are being pulled from their court dates, so they are following due process.

This scumbag should die in a jail cell.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Not to mention the ones they are simply cancelling their visas and other legal arrangements and then arresting and deporting. Steven Miller is white supremacist scum and should be tried for crimes against humanity.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

I want him to be publicly executed. Ideally by due process but I'm increasingly ok with by mob

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 hours ago

Ah, the land of the free welcoming the tired, heartbroken and poor huddled masses yearning for that freedom?

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

micropenis confirmed

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 23 points 6 hours ago

If anyone doesn't have due process, no one has due process.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 36 points 13 hours ago

This guy basically just said he doesn't care what the constitution says, he's going to do whatever he wants anyway.

I sure with the idiots on the right would get riled up over literally anything besides the 2nd amendment.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 35 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm sick of people trying to gaslight us into thinking ICE is only going after illegal immigrants and that they just want people to follow legal processes to come in. They're arresting people at courthouses, in the midst of following the legal process to immigrate

[–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

They're also arresting Americans and then claiming afterwards that their birth certificates are fake.

And people need to get this through their heads: If illegal immigrants have no right to due process, then NOBODY has the right to due process, because how are you going to prove you're a citizen without due process?

[–] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 12 points 12 hours ago

I just saw an ad recruiting new ICE members. It was essentially just selling fear. These people are such cowards.

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Got my tomatoes and strike fund ready, when are we national striking?

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Right. Except the criteria Mr. Nazi over there has is “…because I say they were undocumented”.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

Isn't the onus on the state to prove they are undocumented? That's the charge yea?

So...defense lawyer to 5-A, checkmate?

This seems like something that would be thrown out before the envelope was even opened. Like AOL floppies on the judges docket.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

So...defense lawyer to 5-A, checkmate?

Ahh see, the defense lawyer can't do anything if they literally cannot physically locate their client.

[–] thecaptaintrout@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

You would be right, if the Republican administration actually followed rule of law. How many major court cases have they lost, yet continued doing that they were sued/charged over? I've lost count. The laws are not being Enforced, because the enforcement is the task of the Executive branch, i.e. the presidency and departments (FBI, NSA, DOD, DHS, etc). In previous administrations, the non partisan federal employees would enforce the law with either party in the Whitehouse, but with this current Republican administration and it's purge of federal workforce and replacing non-partisan positions with political appointees, as explicitly called for in Project 2025.

I’m not sure what you’re saying…

…but the state is skipping the court part.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Every time I see that horrible fuck’s face I wish for horrible fates to befall him that I will not put in print.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

I will put them in print. I hope he loses his favorite bath towels and has to dry off with the ones he would use for drying his hands after going to the bathroom if he actually washed his hands

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 75 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

You need due process to even know if they are illegal aliens. They just want to deport people without checking.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 11 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I'm pretty sure some natural-born citizens have already been disappeared by ICE

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 18 points 18 hours ago

Oh, they "checked". They held up the color chart.

[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 74 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Due process isn't something you "deserve". You are entitled to it, regardless of any circumstance. The process is due to you. It is your unalienable right.

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 26 points 17 hours ago

Oh geez, using that logic, no criminal used due process to murder, rape, steal, so they can't be charged.

Stephen Miller is truly the Chief of Staff we deserve.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 145 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

You didn't have due process to be born Stephen, so you don't deserve it when we put your neck in a guillotine.

[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 39 points 22 hours ago (14 children)

I'd prefer slowly lowering him into a wood chipper, feet first. After we feed him a ton of adrenaline so he can't pass out.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Nah go dangle first

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 26 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Nah, he deserves a much more ironic punishment more suited to make him miserable.

He deserves to be forced to afford rent on minimum wage in an inner city surrounded by the people he hates.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

How about he is forced to pick up trash alongside the highways, and the government makes very prominent, hyper-cool videos about it, just like they are making for people carted off to CECOT?

Most days he is picking up trash by the highway, and other days he has to work in Hispanic communities doing community service like working in a soup kitchen, bussing tables? Ideally, all he hears all day long is Spanish.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

Nah, not painful enough

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 94 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That means they can remove anyone without due process...

They could say literally anyone didn't come in the country legally, and "due process" is where people can prove they should be here

This is the same as when people would drown women, and if died she wasn't a witch so everyone would celebrate even tho they just killed an innocent.

No regard for false positives.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 21 points 21 hours ago

Fascists don't believe in due process, they believe in whims enforced at gunpoint.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 20 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I think he should have been aggressively bullied more.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Honestly, he could probably use a few swirlies right now.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago

Bring us yo huddled masses

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

He doesn’t deserve lube.

[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Cannot wait to see that logic used on him when it comes to his time - he didn't do any of what he did with due process, so no due process is owed him when deciding what to do about his crimes....

[–] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Can he just come out of the closet already? Why take out whatever problems/insecurities/being in the closet or whatever he has out on everyone else?

[–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 hours ago

There's not a lot of people I'll say this about, but I think he is just genuinely evil.

We have the narcissists, the sociopaths, the self-loathing queer people, the ones driven entirely by greed, but I really do think that Stephen Miller delights in the cruelty, the suffering, the... evil

This photo of Goebbels comes to mind basically every time I think of Miller

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 32 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Openly admitting to violating the civil rights of millions will come in handy for those of us who will hold you accountable.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago

When. Dammit WHEN?

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[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 22 hours ago

Yes, and you didn't have due process when you turned left without signaling, so now you don't get to go to a judge and say the cop was lying.

It all makes so much sense now!

Dumbass.

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