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"There are 15 million illegal aliens," Miller said adding that "if each were given a full trial, deportations would take centuries"

White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller said in a video that went viral on Friday that undocumented immigrants are not entitled to due process protections when being removed from the United States, arguing that providing full legal proceedings would make deportations unworkable.

"There are 15 million illegal aliens," Miller said. "If each were given a full trial, deportations would take centuries. They had no due process entering the country, and they are not entitled to it when being removed."

Supreme Court precedent has long held that constitutional protections apply to noncitizens within U.S. territory. In Wong Wing v. United States (1896), the Court ruled that the Fifth Amendment's due process clause protects noncitizens from arbitrary detention or punishment.

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

If anyone doesn't have due process, no one has due process.

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Got my tomatoes and strike fund ready, when are we national striking?

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 27 points 9 hours ago

This guy basically just said he doesn't care what the constitution says, he's going to do whatever he wants anyway.

I sure with the idiots on the right would get riled up over literally anything besides the 2nd amendment.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 22 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm sick of people trying to gaslight us into thinking ICE is only going after illegal immigrants and that they just want people to follow legal processes to come in. They're arresting people at courthouses, in the midst of following the legal process to immigrate

[–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

They're also arresting Americans and then claiming afterwards that their birth certificates are fake.

And people need to get this through their heads: If illegal immigrants have no right to due process, then NOBODY has the right to due process, because how are you going to prove you're a citizen without due process?

[–] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 hours ago

I just saw an ad recruiting new ICE members. It was essentially just selling fear. These people are such cowards.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Right. Except the criteria Mr. Nazi over there has is “…because I say they were undocumented”.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Isn't the onus on the state to prove they are undocumented? That's the charge yea?

So...defense lawyer to 5-A, checkmate?

This seems like something that would be thrown out before the envelope was even opened. Like AOL floppies on the judges docket.

I’m not sure what you’re saying…

…but the state is skipping the court part.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Every time I see that horrible fuck’s face I wish for horrible fates to befall him that I will not put in print.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago

I will put them in print. I hope he loses his favorite bath towels and has to dry off with the ones he would use for drying his hands after going to the bathroom if he actually washed his hands

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 25 points 13 hours ago

Oh geez, using that logic, no criminal used due process to murder, rape, steal, so they can't be charged.

Stephen Miller is truly the Chief of Staff we deserve.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 69 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

You need due process to even know if they are illegal aliens. They just want to deport people without checking.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I'm pretty sure some natural-born citizens have already been disappeared by ICE

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 16 points 14 hours ago

Oh, they "checked". They held up the color chart.

[–] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Can he just come out of the closet already? Why take out whatever problems/insecurities/being in the closet or whatever he has out on everyone else?

[–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 8 hours ago

There's not a lot of people I'll say this about, but I think he is just genuinely evil.

We have the narcissists, the sociopaths, the self-loathing queer people, the ones driven entirely by greed, but I really do think that Stephen Miller delights in the cruelty, the suffering, the... evil

This photo of Goebbels comes to mind basically every time I think of Miller

[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 69 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Due process isn't something you "deserve". You are entitled to it, regardless of any circumstance. The process is due to you. It is your unalienable right.

[–] jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

*according to the US constitution ?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Been law governing statesia (then part of England) since 1354. And I quote:

No man of what state or condition he be, shall be put out of his lands or tenements nor taken, nor disinherited, nor put to death, without he be brought to answer by due process of law.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

He doesn’t deserve lube.

[–] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago

Bring us yo huddled masses

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 139 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

You didn't have due process to be born Stephen, so you don't deserve it when we put your neck in a guillotine.

[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 38 points 18 hours ago (14 children)

I'd prefer slowly lowering him into a wood chipper, feet first. After we feed him a ton of adrenaline so he can't pass out.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Nah go dangle first

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 25 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Nah, he deserves a much more ironic punishment more suited to make him miserable.

He deserves to be forced to afford rent on minimum wage in an inner city surrounded by the people he hates.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

How about he is forced to pick up trash alongside the highways, and the government makes very prominent, hyper-cool videos about it, just like they are making for people carted off to CECOT?

Most days he is picking up trash by the highway, and other days he has to work in Hispanic communities doing community service like working in a soup kitchen, bussing tables? Ideally, all he hears all day long is Spanish.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

In Venezuela

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Cannot wait to see that logic used on him when it comes to his time - he didn't do any of what he did with due process, so no due process is owed him when deciding what to do about his crimes....

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 19 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I think he should have been aggressively bullied more.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Honestly, he could probably use a few swirlies right now.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 92 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That means they can remove anyone without due process...

They could say literally anyone didn't come in the country legally, and "due process" is where people can prove they should be here

This is the same as when people would drown women, and if died she wasn't a witch so everyone would celebrate even tho they just killed an innocent.

No regard for false positives.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 18 points 17 hours ago

Fascists don't believe in due process, they believe in whims enforced at gunpoint.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 32 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Openly admitting to violating the civil rights of millions will come in handy for those of us who will hold you accountable.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago

When. Dammit WHEN?

[–] helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz 7 points 14 hours ago

I do so badly wish to be a judge on that tribunal.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 33 points 18 hours ago
[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 18 hours ago

Yes, and you didn't have due process when you turned left without signaling, so now you don't get to go to a judge and say the cop was lying.

It all makes so much sense now!

Dumbass.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

15 million! Crikey! Which orifice did he pull that number from?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

He has a huge boil in and on his ass. It's called Stephen Miller

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 15 hours ago

Not how anything works.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

Then change the constitution. It's that simple.

[–] Shamber@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Is this guys actually a living thing? I never get that I'm living being vibe from him, anyone checked him for puls?

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

He's basically wormtongue except that when Gandalf purges him from the White House Trump will still be a piece of shit.

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