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[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago

re:title: Who used my Santa wish list as a primary source again?!

The article goes on about "would be nice if"s. Call me back when the EU sets some meaningful financial/legal incentives to move away from US hyper-dependance by default.

[–] HisArmsOpen@crust.piefed.social 17 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Leaders: (to US) Were serious! Don't make us cut this cord! We'll do it........ We will do it......... Don't try to stop us.... Don't try and talk a out of it.....

European Citizens: (to their elected leaders) For goodness sake, cut it now, ASAP, and let us be free of those risks.

Anyone still relying on services or resources from the united States is seriously mentally ill or a saboteur.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 29 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I'll believe it when I see it. It'll probably take 1-2 decades before the majority of companies have cut the cord. Many people I talked to expected the government to make the first step, not industry which seems completely backwards but oh well.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Why backwards? Seems like governments should respond to the will of the people, whereas companies make decisions in their own interest based on profit. You could say customers vote with their money. Or you could pass laws requiring regulations to drive such a shift. But ultimately that would all take longer than simply passing laws to change how the government spends on IT and services?

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 11 hours ago

Companies are supposed to be the nimble ones, not the government. Most of the time it's companies that drive adoption of something, not governments. Governments are normally the slowest at adopting anything that makes sense.

To now turn it around and say "no, we will wait until the government adopts the tech" is backwards.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Some European government departments have already switched. The government is leading because they want digital sovereignty and they handle both sensitive government information and sensitive people's information. Companies will just go for profit unless required to do something else, and only certain companies will ever need to switch when they handle sensitive data. Your mom and pop flower store doesn't matter. Also they need European cloud companies to get rolling, which means they need customers, and the easiest and best customer is the government, which means it makes sense for the government to lead. You have this all backwards.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago

Really hoping they do. The EU is a huge market, and it will have a downstream effect and potentially force positive change in the US if they consume less from us.

[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 10 points 13 hours ago

Better half a century late than never!