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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 120 points 22 hours ago (27 children)

Isn't it fun living through the decline phase of our civilization?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Rather arrogant to believe the US falling means the decline of our entire civilisation.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Lol; that's what the EU common people said about too big to fail, too.

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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 27 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Civilization? Nah just the collapse of one empire. The rest of the world goes on.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

The collapse of the United States would have devastating effects on every other country. everywhere you go in the world, you notice people paying very close attention to what's happening in America

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

The US won't go quietly into the night. A desperate US is a scary prospect with a military several orders larger and better equipped than the rest of the world combined.

Until the US eliminates it's military budget the rest of the world would be wise to watch their backs.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 29 points 21 hours ago (9 children)

I'm so happy to be in the EU. Good luck over there! BTW we had like 100 collapses and 1000 wars before we got to where we are...

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 52 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Don't get complacent. The EU countries are toying with the idea of collapsing with us. AfD doesn't seem to be shrinking, and there will be a lot of money and propaganda dumped that way soon.

I hope you're better at resisting it than we were, but seeing as how we're all still on vulnerable social media...

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 9 points 15 hours ago

Once the oligarchs have picked the bones over here, the EU is next. They’re like a virus that must keep consuming.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 22 points 21 hours ago

True, idiocy is universal. You can see the roaches crawling out of the rocks already.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, nothing is written in stone for sure, and I hope our american friends will figure it out, and that we'll motor through all this bullshit.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 28 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

How can you say this with a straight face? All fascist parties have record numbers, workers rights are being targeted across the board, digital privacy is a thing of the past. We're like barely half a step behind. The oligarchy doesn't care about states or continents. The EU is on the menu just as much as the US

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and us unionists are fighting back. What, do you think we're all just sitting on our arses with our heads up rectums?

If a fascist takes over the Danish government I'm going to riot, and I know which friends to call on to make it happen too.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You can PM me too if it comes to that.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

I'm in France so I'm already used to it and ready to restart.

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"Civilization" is a big word for a collection of selfish pillagers who barely tolerate each other. It's certainly "fun" for the rest of the world, lol.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Who's going to dominate trade? Cos people are hoping it won't be an authoritarian state like China.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Why does any one country need to dominate trade?

A much better outcome would be that more countries have a larger number of trading partners rather than one behemoth monopolizing all trade.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago

Won't be China for long anyways, I think India will dominate soon ish, and keep your eyes out for Mexico

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

Late to the party? A little slow? Where have you been, author?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 12 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Over the past two decades, the office of the US Trade Representative–which is responsible for developing and coordinating US international trade, commodity, and direct investment policy—has pressured most of the world into adopting these laws, hamstringing foreign startups that might compete with Apple (by providing a jailbreaking kit that installs a third-party app store), or Google (by blocking tracking on Android devices), or Amazon (by converting Kindle and Audible files to formats that work on rival apps), or John Deere (by disabling the systems that block third-party repairs), or the Big Three automakers (by decoding the encrypted error messages mechanics need to service our cars). The rents that these digital locks help American companies extract run to hundreds of billions of dollars every single year.
The world’s governments agreed to protect this racket in exchange for tariff-free access to American markets. Now that the US has reneged on its side of the bargain, these laws serve no useful purpose.

In 2026, many countries will respond to tariffs like they were still in the 19th century. But a few countries will have the vision, the boldness, and the political smarts to kick Donald Trump right in the dongle. The country that gets there first will enjoy the same relationship to, say, third-party app stores for games consoles, that Finland enjoyed in relation to mobile phones during the Nokia decade.

Hear, hear!

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 13 hours ago

It would be good (and for the US as well), but it's possible the ship has sailed.

See, such racket schemes, if we use the tone of the article which I mostly agree with, are benefit not only to such US companies. They have already become popular and they will continue to be used.

So no. Unless suddenly a few liberal-democratic revolutions happen and everyone suddenly feels peaceful and reasonable.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago

Trump didn't cause it but he sure as hell accelerated its decline.

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 6 points 15 hours ago

Praying for fall of USA🙏🙏

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 29 points 21 hours ago

That happened the second capitalists got a chance to move their factories to other countries.

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] HisArmsOpen@crust.piefed.social 16 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

The US needs savvy voters. Or,, selfish voters who realise they are the farmed turkeys voting for Christmas.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Bbbut some will be pardoned at Thanksgiving!

[–] HisArmsOpen@crust.piefed.social 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

No one needs a pardon, they just vote for their self interests

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago (3 children)
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