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[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Is this true? I was listening to a lecture of I think it was a linguist on apes using sign language, saying that the evidence for them actually understanding language is... not great. Like it appear they just sign until their carers gets the right/expected answer. That they may want to say 'apple', but not finding the word, they can't describe the shape, color, just random words util they hit the correct one, or something like that.

[–] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Afaik yes, although I remember reading that (I think) Koko sort of asked something (I think it was "what color" or something like that). But at the same time I remember reading about similar criticism you mentioned, that Koko's signs were often quite random and the caretakers often tried to make fun of the situation that "she's just joking".

I should find that article ...

Edit: I don't know if it was exactly this artice but it was similar

https://bigthink.com/life/ape-sign-language/

Edit 2: or this

https://slate.com/technology/2014/08/koko-kanzi-and-ape-language-research-criticism-of-working-conditions-and-animal-care.html

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Yes, that is the one! Koko and "just joking" I recognize from that lecture.

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Longest non-human primate sentence on record:

Give Orange Me Give Eat Orange Me Eat Orange Give Me Eat Orange Give Me You

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power. Good. Thank you, thank you. If you vote me, I'm hot. What? Taxes, they'll be lower, son. The Democratic vote for me is right thing to do Philadelphia, so do.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is pretty impressive. Where is it from?

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that was Bukowski

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not asshole enough for him

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

NO, baaaaad ape. Me better you no good. I win you lose whyareyoulikethis. No. bad ape. Existence is suffering.

Like that?

[–] nezrock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Pelcan mouth is good place for baby Put baby Pelican mouth now

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[–] TerrabyteMarx@quokk.au 6 points 1 day ago

Everything is so sad today

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Onion News Network - Scientists Successfully Teach Gorilla It Will Die Someday

https://youtu.be/CJkWS4t4l0k

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Never once? Not even "what's for dinner"?

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

To be, or not to be?

[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

well, kinda yeah. Just jumbled and weird:

Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you.

is the longest recorded sentence

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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