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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

I really don't want Apple to enter this market because then all the current OEMs will just be even more incentivized not to make generational advancements, and to just copy Apple's Chinese grade quality to sell more slop because idiots will buy.

Google already threw a grenade with their subpar pixel fold and then Samsung magically swapped off snapdragon for their zflip. If Apple joins, next they'll start using plastic for the shell and still charge $999.

People who think this won't be a competitive product can just look to the past 20 years of Apple successfully selling stupid shit for exorbitant prices. I would even bet money it comes with an even deeper crease than current gen foldables against the "new hinge tech" hype this guy is claiming.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Be phone engineer

Finally manufacture one-atom thick phone

The screen is nearly entirely invisible due to its thinness

You can't tap it anywhere or it immediately breaks into a million crumbs like filo dough

The components had to be spread over a 200 square meter sheet to fit all their atoms side by side

Present product to the board, instantly promoted to CEO

Product releases

Everyone buys the waferphone

"It's so thin" say consumers

"Unparalleled convenience and an incredible feat of engineering" say reviewers

Third parties begin selling titanium insulation sheetcases to protect your waferphone

Too big and heavy to take outside, everyone stores their waferphones underground at waferlockers

All phones are now completely inaccessible remotely or physically

Technological nirvana attained at last

[–] RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago

We think you’re gonna love it.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I was actually looking at foldable phones a few weeks back, seems like 2 screens isn’t enough to make a difference, but 3 screens are. It’s either I get that or a foldable 1 screen phone (like a flip phone).

On another note, after Tim apple bribed Trump with a gold ball I’ve decided to no longer buy apple products again. And it’s kind of a big deal because I’ve had iPhones since 2008.

[–] swampdownloader@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m not disagreeing with you but whose phone do you plan on buying next? Pichai + Brin also bribed trump (they were at the inauguration alongside Tim Apple and others)

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

That gold trophy though really rubbed me the wrong way. And Ihate apple for that. And yes I know they all donated for ballroom paid for inauguration. They're all shit but Apple is the shitiest IMO.

Only issue is gapps there are lots of phones not made by Americans.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t know yet. I’ll get a new phone when this one dies. The point is that I used to buy iPhones as default, and that is no longer the case. I wonder how many customers they lost like me - theoretically I could have been a life long customer.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

don't forget to not buy new. buy a used device whenever possible, unless you specifically want to support a particular company

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Was going to say this. Second hand phones don't give money to corporations (except via usage, of course).

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It makes huge difference. I'm on Fold since Fold 4 and would never go back to a slab phone mostly because I just read books or text web/social media. The square display is perfect for this as you get proper 80-120 character lines with large font and enough space for media etc.

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[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 53 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I would like a feature where you fold an iphone into a linux phone.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are a few people that Apple would love to delete from the face of the planet.

Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman, who’s consistently divulging Apple’s plans, is one. TF International Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who is always sharing information based on his supply chain checks, is high up on the list, too.

Apple uses Gurman for controlled leaks to build hype. He hasn’t been sued yet.

But YouTuber Jon Prosser is public enemy number one that Apple is trying to truly silence. And for good reason: the man who Apple sued in July for leaking iOS 26 and Liquid Glass keeps spoiling Apple’s unreleased products with high-quality 3D renders in his videos

Now Prosser, Apple definitely doesn’t use him for leaks since he is being sued. He’s just an idiot.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 124 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (30 children)

Assuming he's right (and boy, being sued by apple is a huge boost to his credibility), they're keeping the stupid camera bump thing from the air???

[–] scratchee@feddit.uk 90 points 2 days ago

The camera bump sure isn’t going away for a folding phone. cameras have fundamental volume requirements to maintain quality, if they don’t think they can justify making the normal iPhone thick enough to enclose the camera then there’s no way in hell they’ll think the folding phones doubled width can include it, if anything you’d expect it to be more prominent on a folding model

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It does not surprise me that the Air is literally the folding phone without the second screen.

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It too late for this product to succeed. If it isn’t absolutely perfect, it won’t matter that it’s great. It took so long to get here the public has unrealistic expectations now.

Meanwhile, the techbros and pretty much poisoned consumer electronics and everyone is looking for a way to jump ship.

I think we are going to see Linux phones get sales like the iPhone air did this year, which weren’t great for Apple but mean something very different for competition.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Whose making this phone. Nothing coming out seems decent yet. The best one has cut down specs from its none Linux version.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Well I'm pretty sure Android is a Linux offshoot iirc? Fair phone comes to mind but I'm not sure if it's linux based

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean, do they even have a case against them? It's not like they stole the information, or signed a contract with Apple.

Also, fuck Apple, and Google, and the rest of them. If they can't keep a lid on their "secrets", that's on them.

I'm focusing on the lawsuit part, because IDGAF about new phones.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'm prone to believing that a lot of those things presented as "leaks" are actually the company in question doing it by themselves behind the curtains - because let's face it - people want sensationalism and they won't shut up about something like that.

Someone forgot an unreleased phone at a bar? I call bullshit.

[–] H1AA6329S@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Breakthrough technology, never seen before in the mobile market. Apple, like always, surprises the word with the latest never seen before tech that will become mainstream in the near future, thanks to apple and its affordable pricing for everyday customers.

Now just slap that 2,5-3k RRP on the device and let it sell out in.

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

Apple’s entire history as an org has been as a fast follower, not a first mover.

The Apple Newton is a great example of why they avoid being a first mover.

[–] SOULFLY98@slrpnk.net 37 points 1 day ago (4 children)

They've also become really, really good at outsourcing R&D to other companies. This lets them outsource the expense of trial and error, and swoop down with a mature product once everyone else has paid for it.

15 years ago they famously patented, and then leaked that they were working on a fingerprint reader authentication method, and then they watched the Android manufacturers bend over backwards to implement it so they could say they did it "first." In those early days of smartphones, being first to implement something and then claiming Apple copied it was a big deal for people who wanted to be first movers (today they are called "techbros"). Motorola Mobility ate the cost of R&D, was never able to recoup the costs, and ended up being sold to Google for their patent portfolio. By the time Apple released Touch ID two and a half years later, Motorola Mobility was a shell of itself, and ended up being sold a second time to Lenovo.

Foldable phones have been a thing for a while, and Apple just sat back and took notes on what everyone else was doing. Surface Duo killed Microsoft's last attempt at a mobile device. Now it's a relatively mature market (we have tri-fold phones for two years now and tablets that fold into a laptop with a bluetooth keyboard) and now Apple will swoop in and bring the rest of the market.

The money isn't in being a first mover; it's in making a reliable product that everyone can use. It shouldn't be lost on anyone that Apple made a trillion dollars while OpenBSD (upstream for a lot of Apple's ecosystem) struggled to pay its light bills.

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 day ago (18 children)

I like the idea of a foldable phone but what I really want is a phone that folds enough to fit in my women’s pants pockets.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The other solution is to make women's pants with pockets that can actually hold things.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

inconceivable!

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[–] Mellibird@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 1 day ago

This is actually why I adore my Motorola razr. First phone I've had in I don't know how many years that fits easily into the front pocket of my jeans and is relatively unnoticeable. Love the folding form factor.

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[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A 5.5” screen is way too small to be worth it. If this costs more than an an iPad + iPhone Pro, this thing is gonna flop more than the Vision Pro did.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Tbh, I think that Apple makes stuff like the Vision Pro not to make money but to appear as if they have some kind of technological leadership.

They can claim that they have the best headset on the market. No need to actually sell any units.

(And of course other manufacturers could make just as nice headsets for that price point, but most other manufacturers actually need to sell units and thus they build them with realistic hardware.)

[–] lian_drake@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That is literally a Pixel Fold

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Watched the video on mine. I was thinking the same thing lol. Only difference is the alleged no center dent, which, tbh, people make too big of a deal out of. Once you use it for a bit you don't even notice it anymore. Meh.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

Omg it is it even has the horrible curved screen and little notch. How could apple do this horrendous design. Oh wait they gave the notch.

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