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It's something I struggle with. Some bad news comes out about some public persona doing something shitty and they get cancelled. But sometimes I really struggle with giving up the things they've made because I like them. There are also occasions where the person has been accused of something and it doesn't seem true to me, or I think they're genuinely sorry and have been punished enough, and the context isn't being considered.

What do you think? Who do you feel conflicted about enjoying?

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[–] pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Louis C.K

The reason he got cancelled was so stupid and everyone made it seem like he raped countless women. Also, he asked permission to do what he did. If anyone around him at that time didn't like the sound of him doing what he asked permission for, they could've said 'No' and he wouldn't have done it. I just didn't see Louis being that kind of unreasonable guy but that's what they demonized him as. I think it was all a ploy, to trap him to do what he did so they could demonize him that way.

The only reason I don't care of him that much these days is because I'm being introduced to more comics, that I am finding Louis' material very samey. Like always going on about his kids, family life .etc

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I found this one difficult. Like they were comparing him to all the other MeToo incidents, like Cosby and Weinstein.

Which is like, there is a serious gradient of crime here. And weighing it all equally like it's black or white is problematic.

My tinfoil hat is all that accusation and black/white style of blame is what led to the manosphere gaining so much power and attention.

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[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I really enjoyed Lost Prophets music, but after what happened, I feel really weird about listening to it. I like it but I don't feel like I should.

I wouldn't recommend looking up what the singer did

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[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The Vornheim City Kit is a great resource for urban RPG, even though the author is cancelled.

TBH I tried to understand why, and when I did, stuff was still going through courts. I'm too wary of extrajudicial condemnation to take a side, but his associate, the LotFP guy, always gave me the ick for his edginess. So I'll continue to enjoy the book I got long ago and forget about them.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Naomi Wu a.k.a. SexyCyborg on youtube.

Unforgotten.

Got taken out (and we can only imagine how, but surely in a most effective way) of public life because she had the bad luck of living in China.

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago (5 children)
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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (16 children)
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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 16 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Never meet your hero. There are some well known people out there that are great human beings, but just as many who are average or below, and being a celebrity won't help a bad personality get better (usually).

Not only for the reason to keep the illusion, but if I saw someone famous in public I wouldn't be that annoying fan that helps push some to the edge. At best I'd just mention I liked their work (not even saying specifics) and let it be. Again, they are people, and I know I don't like to be bothered with small talk from strangers.

A side note that is a bit related to breaking the false image. When you figure out that your parents and other relatives are just people too, with their own greatness and flaws. It's probably healthy in the long run, but the first shock can be nasty.

I guess I should name someone. Tom Cruise is always the first in my mind. Some incredible work, but he's both weird and given how embedded he is with Scientology, can't be that great of a person to know well. But maybe not... he is peculiar though.

I would love to meet the cast of Andor and Tony Gilroy, they seem amazing, intelligent, and down to earth. But going back to my point, at most all I'd be doing is telling them how great they were at their job, and hope that what they portray in interviews is who they really are.

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[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I always had a weird feeling about MSI mindless self indulgence. Now all doubt is removed....

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[–] muxika@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

Probably performers like Jared Leto and Marilyn Manson. They've made some great albums (A Beautiful Lie and Antichrist Superstar) and movie appearances (Requiem for a Dream and Lost Highway), but I understand why they give people the ick.

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[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Vektor released three progressively more amazing albums of prog thrash before their label dropped them after domestic abuse allegations against the frontman.

Infiltration was an amazing Street Fighter pro who was sometimes completely unstoppable and really fun to watch. At least until he also faced domestic abuse allegations. He got banned from some competitions, his sponsor dropped him, and he nearly completely disappeared. The situation also anecdotally sounds like it's not just a case of "oh he beat his wife" and possibly was in a mutually abusive relationship. But a judge convicted him based on "a wrist injury and bruises" and that was basically the end of his career.

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