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It's something I struggle with. Some bad news comes out about some public persona doing something shitty and they get cancelled. But sometimes I really struggle with giving up the things they've made because I like them. There are also occasions where the person has been accused of something and it doesn't seem true to me, or I think they're genuinely sorry and have been punished enough, and the context isn't being considered.

What do you think? Who do you feel conflicted about enjoying?

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[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Phil Spector produced some of the best music of the twentieth century, including one of a handful of bearable Christmas albums in existence. Also he's a fucking murderer. So... bit of a mixed bag, there.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Naomi Wu a.k.a. SexyCyborg on youtube.

Unforgotten.

Got taken out (and we can only imagine how, but surely in a most effective way) of public life because she had the bad luck of living in China.

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[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I really enjoyed Lost Prophets music, but after what happened, I feel really weird about listening to it. I like it but I don't feel like I should.

I wouldn't recommend looking up what the singer did

[–] CarterH739@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have learned a lesson today. From now on when someone says, "I wouldn't recommended looking into this," I think I'll just leave it alone.

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)
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[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If you feel like you can only like things made by people who haven't done anything wrong, ever, you're left with Mr Rogers and that's about it. Liking something someone made isn't an endorsement of their actions or opinions. Unfortunately we live in a hyper capitalistic society so buying their stuff can help them with their shitty opinions, so don't buy new Harry Potter stuff, but feel free to enjoy it.

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[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago (9 children)

I always had a weird feeling about MSI mindless self indulgence. Now all doubt is removed....

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[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I enjoy watching Jared Leto get beaten up in Fight Club...

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[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

It's a struggle sometimes, but I think it's the only real control we have.

It's a case by case basis for me. Some actor being in a movie I like isn't a big deal to me, but when someone has like huge creative control over something it's like a visceral repulsion to me. I don't want to take a piece of media into my experience with the subtext that the author touches kids or something. It's not even just that I know these people do bad things, it's that personal views shape how people make stories etc, and I'm not fond of putting that into my psyche. If they do some fucked up shit in the book, I want to be able to know it's because this character is evil, not because the author is saying this is a normal healthy thing to do.

RHCP sucks because I think it's pretty good music, and I was really into them when I was a teen, but given everything I know about them now it makes it impossible to enjoy their stuff now.

[–] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Marilyn Manson, I like his music.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

After being burned by a dozen creators, I find it safer for my own emotional well-being to just assume all things beautiful and evocative are made by someone who is secretly a terrible person.

Saves me from the disappointment of finding out later.

I'm constantly surprised when it turns out someone famous isn't getting up to some bad shit.

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