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[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 117 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (11 children)

It’s nice to see Gen Z getting more qualitatively neutral headline language. Millennials would’ve been “killing the meat industry.”

Also, this is really good. While we don’t all need to become total vegans, reducing the number of domesticated animals would have a significantly positive impact on both the environment and the quality of those animals’ lives.

[–] Aiastarei@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Tbh it's from a vegan souce, and probably written by millenials too

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They're citing a gallup poll https://news.gallup.com/poll/510038/identify-vegetarian-vegan.aspx

What does the article being written by someone with a birth year within a specific range have to do with it's the validity of its contents?

[–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

Millennials bore the brunt of a ton of media framing their changes as evil, so they aren't doing the same to subsequent generations. A similar inference could be made about the positivity towards veganism (i.e., coming from a vegan site).

OP isn't implying anything about validity; they're just explaining the article's positive framing.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

While we don’t all need to become total vegans, reducing the number of domesticated animals would have a significantly positive impact on both the environment and the quality of those animals’ lives.

This is where I'm at. Half-assed vegetarian. I don't buy meat but if someone serves it at a dinner I don't refuse to eat. Baby steps. It's making progress without the shock of an abrupt change all at once.

Yeah I turned meat into a “special occasion” food, and it was way easier than I thought once I got over the perfectionism. Animal products are a lot easier to reduce than completely eliminate, but every little bit helps.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Over >50% of the space humans occupy is for agriculture. 3/4 of that space is dedicated to livestock/feed.

Recently I learned that plants like Bambara Nuts (africa) and Water Lentils (duckweed) have complete amino complexes and b12. They're probably not the only ones either.

There's also many pest/drought resistant perennial crops that are nitrogen/nutrient fixers that eliminate the need for fertilizers and pesticides.

I expect that the impending climate induced supply chain collapse of global agriculture will force people to return to these more ancestral, and arguably superior, food sources.

[–] NaibofTabr 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Huh, isn't duckweed pretty easy to grow?

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just watched a lady "grow" it in buckets of pond/tap water. It doubles in biomass every 48h. Literally just let it sit there.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most things with weed in the name is going to be easy to grow. A lot of people with aquariums or ponds feel plagued by it. I love it for aquariums it's one of the few things that can out compete algae

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Youtube has sent me down the rabbit hole. Almost every common weed that's not native to North America was once a staple food crop in Europe.

But in the mid 20th century big agriculture realized they'd make more money selling annuals, fertilizer, and pesticides... instead of letting people grow perennial plants that solved those problems on their own.

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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

No we need to free all slaves not just some.

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[–] ngdev@lemmy.zip 53 points 3 months ago (3 children)

4% compared to 2%

i am not a vegan but if this means more interesting recipes then it's a W

[–] DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 21 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Hell, I'm not vegan (or vegetarian), but I'm almost 100% sure I eat much less meat than Millennials and Boomers did when they were in my wage and age bracket.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 months ago

yeah, meat consumption should be about "kg of meat eaten/(person*year)" instead of "percentage of people who eat meat".

because you can have a society where 50% of people eat meat and eat like 100 kg of it per year or you can have a society where 50% of people eat meat and eat 30 kg of it per year, makes a lot of difference.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Same. Growing up, it was the main. Now, it's part of a dish. Instead of 1/2 meat, and 1/2 sides, the meat is about 1/5, and 4/5 sides. Not completely meatless, but much better than when I was younger.

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

All those food recalls in the last two decades has made me eat more vegetables, or find meat alternatives.

Also, rising prices. It's like $10 a lb for quality burger meat. Or I can buy vegetarian burgers.

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[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

It's also bad data analysis, young people outgrow veganism. There is nothing in the base study that indicates any change in this trend.

[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Interesting. I've noticed the hype dying down in recent years and some of my favorite vegan products disappearing off the shelves or changing recipe and then dying a slow painful death. I blamed it on people and companies treating it as just a fad, so reporting that it's still a thing people do is surprising to me.

It's true there are still more vegan products than before, but the dedicated sections in my local supermarkets are tiny.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Subsidies for the animal agriculture industry are still lopsided against veganism, and the Far Right escalation in social media awarded by algorithms favors carnism over veganism.

I like to think that veganism is more of a grass roots (pun intended) movement focused on whole foods in favor of processed foods.

All these things may contribute to veganism's seeming decline in the last few years, although I may be wrong (and that decline may just be a lack of reporting)

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I feel like it's a difficult thing to measure, because like you said, the OG vegans are just eating a plant-based diet of whole foods. Veggies/greens, rice, beans lentils, nuts, grains, tofu etc... which health-conscious meat eaters will also eat. Must be hard to get the signal from the noise there. I would imagine that meat replacement type products would be more faddish and less stable because they're often popular with those trying to transition to a plant-based diet.

Plus, these foods are just kind of weird IMO, and way more expensive than just eating a regular diet of plants. They're not going to do well when consumer sentiment is shaky at best.

Disclaimer: I'm not vegan myself, just spent some time in the food industry (organic/natural foods in particular).

[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Anecdotally, this is not the case where I live. Vegan ice cream has taken a hit, but the other sections seem to be expanding year after year.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago

savage, love it

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 months ago

Yay! 🥕🐇

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Vegans rise up! Nobody in any Imperial Core countries should have to eat animals, as there are so many plant-based options today. It's so easy these days, and I'm happy to say that my family's Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners this year were and will be mostly vegan!

I hope all of this Gen Z momentum translates into political will on the policy level, where we see more and more animal sanctuaries both on and off shore.

But of course our impact doesn't just stop at the Imperial Core. We need a global movement of veganism if we should ever want to change what we do to the natural world

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 15 points 3 months ago

Agreed, JOIN US
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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not enough can't stop till no animal is enslaved and exploited.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)
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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

I absolutely misread that title as vampirism and it had me confused for a solid 15 seconds

[–] callmechiko@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 months ago

Love to see it!

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

highest rate of veganism in history

India says hello

[–] wolfyvegan@slrpnk.net 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The massive dairy industry with a stranglehold on Indian culture and politics says hello.

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[–] stray@pawb.social 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Will Gen Z fix the shitty US healthcare system and labor laws?

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[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

It's nice with a good selection of vegan options, makes it easier to eat less meat.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (7 children)

If Gen Z manages to foster a vegan culture that doesn't rely on shaming but is rather welcoming, I think it might convert a whole lot more people, and many of us wouldn't scoff at the idea. One of my biggest hurdles as a former vegetarian was dealing with judgement and I always felt that the community didn't do itself any favors.

[–] dawcas@scribe.disroot.org 7 points 3 months ago

I find most vegans welcoming, the problem is the crazies make so much noise in my opinion. Like in many other fields.

I'm rather asocial, so I can be so wrong.

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