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[–] EpicMuch@sh.itjust.works 161 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

They’ve been sitting on this for years. They knew and just let the info rot and the pedos were left to keep running the world

[–] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 62 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don’t disagree that this shit needs to be addressed, but you do realize that anyone can call the FBI and make claims, and those claims do have to be recorded. Sure, these claims seem on brand, but they are just that. Unsubstantiated claims.

So like, yes, fuck the pedo elite, but don’t start feeling too vindicated when you see something like this, that has no evidentiary weight to it that we know of.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Epstein's niece isn't some rando

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

is there a document that makes it clear that is the source?

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Different point (if you weren't just inquiring)

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 36 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The first case against Epstein was "resolved" under the Bush Admin and the second, where Maxwell received her sentence, was under the Trump admin before being sealed by the courts until late 2023.

I think more importantly is that WE knew. We all knew. "TrafficKing: The Jeffrey Epstein Case" Book by Conchita Sarnoff we published in 2015, we knew all of this and the American public still elected this piece of shit Donald Trump, who we knew was his friend, president.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The electoral college. The rest of us could pick a pickle named Jeff and nobody would care.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I care because anybody who didn't vote for Kamala Harris in 2024 is a dumb asshole and responsible for all of this. People's vote mattered and millions of people who voted for Biden were absent for Harris.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But now Trump is going to gerrymander every state until our vote is ten times smaller than it ever was. It doesn't matter how we vote if they can just manipulate how much our vote contributes to the final electoral college. And then they just have to pay some more electors off.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 1 day ago

Redistricting is usually handled by State congresses not Federal. Trump's major contribution was to have his supreme court nominees sign off on the unfair redistricting.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 31 points 4 days ago (3 children)

If we had a functional democracy, then the opposition party would have made Epstein a major figure in the presidential elections.

The Democratic Party had three opportunities - 2016, 2020, 2024 - when they should have been shouting "Epstein" from every podium, instead they brushed it under the rug.

The reality is we didn't "all" know. Ask any random person on the street, they've never heard of TrafficKing or Julie K Brown or even Virginia Giuffre. It is easy to blame individual voters for their ignorance, but it makes much more sense to view this as an institutional failure.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'd argue if you had a functioning democracy then the Dems wouldn't have needed to do anything about this, much less need it as a campaign tactic. The criminals would go to jail and probably the conservative party would dissolve.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, if we want to have a functioning democracy, then we must dissolve the conservative parties that do not respond to the will of the voters.

This would mean dissolving both the Democratic and Republican parties.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fine by me. Perhaps we should prohibit parties altogether.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Wasn't that George Washington's plan in the beginning?

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Indeed, instead they pretended he wasn't running in four years, and when they did run against him, it was to court Republican voters (the majority of her campaign).

This was in spite of the well-known mathematical fact that an Independent issue must be campaigned on to win an election. Instead, they were "hoping" (officially) Rs would change their mind.

Can't argue with the money they made to do this though, a billion dollars is a new record, especially when she just had a few months. It took Trump FOUR YEARS to raise 900 million or so, she did it in about four months. Amazing, unheard amounts of Super-PAC money made this happen, she did what she was paid to do.

This is all public information, they don't even bother to hide it any longer, it's now LEGAL (because as you know, corporations are people and money is free speech).

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This was in spite of the well-known mathematical fact that an Independent issue must be campaigned on to win an election. Instead, they were "hoping" (officially) Rs would change their mind.

I have been an Unafilliated Independent since the day I first registered to vote in 1977. The Independent voting base is larger than either the Democratic or MAGA voting base. Literally EVERY single national political race in America is decided by the Independent voter.

Neither side can count on my vote. They have to earn it, every time.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I have also been Independent for many years; the Ds and Rs still act like they are the majority for some reason. I guess they never bother to check such things (or much of anything else).

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fact that you would ever even consider a Republican isn't comforting in the least. They haven't taken a sudden turn for the worse, they've been the party of gutting social programs to give tax cuts to the rich for over 40 years now.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

Who said I would consider a Republican? I haven't considered a Republican in over 30 years, and I would never vote for a MAGA. MAGA should be purged from government, abolished, and prohibited.

But not voting Republican doesn't make me a Democrat. They are insufferably weak and cowardly, and hold 50% of the responsibility for the rise, and re-rise of MAGA.

I refuse to be a member of either corrupt club.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"At least she didn't have an abortion. That would have been wrong." - MAGA

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is so deranged sounding that I want to doubt her, but Trump keeps giving me reasons to believe her.

There are cops, staff, friends, family, there has to be hundreds of people who know.

We need more of them to start breaking, but I can understand not wanting to destroy your family and "commit suicide".

Even if he was innocent, he has proven himself to be vindictive and spiteful. Helpful witnesses would be financially destroyed if they disagreed with his narrative in any way.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 16 points 3 days ago

If I've learned anything from MAGA, it's that no matter how outlandish it first sounds, it ALWAYS turns out to be true, often even worse.

Want to keep someone quiet? Murder a newborn in front of them, dispose of the body, and remind them that they're now part of this, so they'd better shut up. Sounds MAGA to me.

So as crazy as this sounds, it probably means that it is 100% true, and probably happened repeatedly.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Remember when he kept talking about "post-birth abortions"? Yeah, it was projection.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Ah abortion, the "old reliable" issue they started dragging out every few years in the 70s.

Notice how the "issues" are never about busting monopolies, strengthening unions, and other real concerns that involve decades of rampant abuse and billions upon billions of dollars. No, let's argue about private medical issues instead, forever.

[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

No matter what it is, if a Republican accuses anyone else of it, they've been doing it all along

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Imagine if he and Epstein were all arrested in like 2010 or something. I imagine we’d have flying cars now.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

We've had flying cars for a while now. They're called helicopters.

I mean, are there even Helicopters with wheels? What the holy hell are you talking about?

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 6 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Helicopters take a whole set of very specific skills to fly. Some sort of multi-rotor set up could potentially be dumbed down and assisted enough for the general public to operate.

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I rather have a train. And someone to drive it for me.

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

Imagine the most middle of the road (metaphorically not literally) driver you can. Now imagine handing them the keys to a <150mph vehicle with the ability to go vertically. How do you think that will go? And what do you think about handing the keys to not just them, but the other 50% of people that are dumber than this imaginary midwit.

Now try and work out what will happen to your driving insurance, or your house insurance if you live near a road when these imaginary people have flying cars.

The phrase "You can make anything idiot proof, the world will just make a better idiot."

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 days ago

I mean obviously the only way flying cars ever work is if they fly themselves. Even then they're still a terrible idea though and would be super duper not eco friendly.

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Like literally. No tariffs with China, and Chinese helicopter car hybrid thingy can launch in the US.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I'm just gonna go ahead and say that I believe this 100% not because I have strong evidence of it but because in the last 10 years Trump has proved that he is deranged enough to do something like before breakfast.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This could be a reason why Epstein called him evil.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago

Takes one to know one.

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

These bastards need the guillotine.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Only you can make that happen, the system is captured for the purpose preventing accountability.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Nah, this is 21st century America. We solve our problems with gunpowder and lead. That way the whole gang gets to join in the fun!

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Gunpowder? I think I know a Guy...

Lead is harmful to the environment. Are bronze and bismuth ok?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You can just copypaste the blacking away, no?

Edit: nope, it's pictures of e-mails wrapped in a pdf. Why in the lovin...

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago

I knew he was going to be implicated for murder in those files, but holy shit

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 days ago

That’s just locker room talk

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I can kind of of not imaging that they would release this. Where exactly could you download it?

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 31 points 4 days ago

That's why I left the whole page as a snip, rather than just the bit about trump.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00025010.pdf

[–] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I need eye bleach

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