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lol lets fuck all other computational sciences so that people can generate cats drinking whiskey in robes de chambre.
Do it. I know which OS will run fine on 8G of RAM and which one won't.
8 GB of RAM would be enough if every fucking application didn't use Electron.
8 GIGABYTES!!? How am I supposed to load a mouse driver in THAT!?
You don't need to load the mouse driver on your laptop. We have a subscription service for it!
Hah, guess they're gonna have to run Linux. Windows 11 would choke on 8 GB RAM.
It's the year of the Linux desktop!
I agree, funny enough they require minimum 4 GB, but I had problems with it with 16 GB. 8 GB is nowhere near enough, especially if you use excel, teams, and that crap.
Large computing will exist solely in the cloud where you will pay a subscription for it. Can't have these grubbing consumers buy anything we elites don't get a monthly cut of.
I wish this was sarcasm.
I speak on behalf of all IT Support personnel everywhere when I say "fuck you"
"WHY IS IT SO SLOW?!?!?!"
It’s not even going to run chrome my guys
better start removing AI from Windows then... holy fucj my 16gb is barely holding up with windows11 that in forced to use on my work PC. slow as BALLS, it's just raping the entire system performance constantly
I wonder what's going to happen to the electron frontends if machines are bottlenecked by ram so bad. Wasn't facebook just planning to switch whatsapp's frontend to webview as well? And win11's desktop is electron too. Everyone was acting like ram is unlimited.
Don't worry, you'll just need to subscribe to My Windows Copilot Cloud+ to get access to a virtual PC with plenty of RAM from anywhere! It'll be powerful enough you'll barely notice us logging all your actions and blocking anything we don't like.
Maybe this will be a boon. The entire reason the ram requirements got so high as it is is because software optimization was put on the back burner. Maybe a ram shortage where people can't obtain the ram needed will force the big name software devs to start being more frugal with ram. (talking to you chrome... whom currently is using 2 gigs alone just trying to show a twitch stream...)
Or more realistically be used as an excuse for always online cloud based services a la office 365. "We would let you download the app, but most users don't have the computing power so instead we'll just make this a helpful subscription!"
At least one studio, Larian, has confirmed this is the case for them.
When discussing the pressures the company faces when releasing a game in early access, such as audience expectations, Vincke told us, "Interestingly, another [issue Larian is facing] is really the price of RAM and the price of SSDs and f**k, man. It's like, literally, we've never had it like this."
He continued, "It kind of ruins all of your projections that you had about it because normally, you know the curves, and you can protect the hardware. It's gonna be an interesting one. It means that most likely, we already need to do a lot of optimization work in early access that we didn't necessarily want to do at that point in time. So it's challenging, but it's video games."
It's neat that AI is already ruining the world in really tangible ways.
So RAM costs them more now, and they need to pass those costs onto customers. However, it seems like they’re also trying to redefine what “mid-range” means to us all, as if we aren’t fully aware of what computers are capable of and what amount of memory is good vs not. Making the various ranges cost more is intuitive. Enshitifying the ranges to sell them at the same price is just antithetical to the whole concept of the ranges…
It’s like if batteries got stupid expensive and they tried to tell us 200km of range is what you get in a touring EV these days. But the distances between all the places haven’t changed…
Why not just tell me to go fuck myself and skip the unsatisfying foreplay?
Dell and Lenovo price gouge consumers
FTFY
Time to switch to Linux people lol. Windows is barely usable on 8GB these days.
Waaaayyy back in the day Dell had a real bad habit of limiting their low and midrange laptops to pitiful amounts of memory to stratify their product line even though the chipset might support more.
Apples going to come out with a 4gb phone and somehow still pitch it as a glorious innovation.
What. My six year old cheapo Acer laptop that got my broke ass through college had 16gb ram. My raspberry pi has 8gb of ram.
Soldered in, or upgradeable at least? The former would be a huge reason to never buy the newest gen of laptops.
EDIT: Missed in article, yeah this would suck if they stick to soldered RAM for ultra-thins.
Another problem manufacturers face is with notebooks that ship with soldered DRAM. In particular, ultrathin designs would need to be revamped to modify their configurations.
Those soldered low RAM ones are going to be in the dump a lot sooner.
Does midrange being at 8GB mean that entry level will be 4GB? because I know corpos are gonna be corpos.
(I don't think windows even run at 4GB lmfao)
Edit: Also, this RAM shortage might force people to use Linux 😁
Will they solder it?
They'll solder 4gb. So even if RAM prices go down, you're still effffed
This wouldn't be much of an issue if most of the laptops nowadays didn't come with soldered in ram and no options of expanding.
mid-range laptops to 8GB
My not-terribly-new phone has 12GB of memory, and I'm pretty sure that Android is a lot lighter on memory than the Windows 11 that I suspect a lot of these are going to be running.
Don’t worry Microsoft will shove as much agentic AI bullshit into Windows 11 as they can, further ruining performance.
zswap and zram ~~becoming highly critical software again~~ trying to shove your fat 16Gb allocated application into 8Gb of RAM with room to spare:
I bought a 64gb desktop in late 2024, in addition to many other expensive features. They can kiss my ass.
