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A community dedicated to fediverse news and discussion.

Fediverse is a portmanteau of "federation" and "universe".

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At the moment the internet is flawed, do you think the fediverse is the solution?

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[–] Ultra980@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Probably, since it's decentralised people can just move to another instance if the mods on theirs abuse their power.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If you move you lose your history and relationships behind. There is no migration, same as Mastodon. On purpose so as not to disempower instance owners

[–] laxe@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It works be nice if there was a way to verify that a user is the same one across Lemmy instances.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

That is one of the main function of public key cryptography

You can append your digital signature to your messages and it becomes possible to confirm the same person made all the messages

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[–] matthieu_xyz@piaille.fr 4 points 2 years ago (7 children)

@Bicyclejohn I don’t know about "replace", but popular social media could JOIN the fediverse.

I don’t blame new users to be late on news. But to make a quick recap, the people interested in implementing ActivityPub include:

- Meta (insta/twt replacement)
- Tumblr
- Wordpress.com
- Medium (currently only running mastodon)
- Discourse
- Flarum

Last time I check those were a few popular social media.

Discourse and Flarum in particular are relevant to Lemmy

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[–] Mir@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

In the sense that it would take over facebook or instagram? No, not a chance.

[–] casey@lemmy.wiuf.net 3 points 2 years ago

I think ultimately that is going to be the goal. Security advocates for years have insisted that we OWN our own data.

[–] itchy_lizard@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] realcaseyrollins@social.freetalklive.com 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] kjr@qoto.org 3 points 2 years ago

@realcaseyrollins @itchy_lizard @Bicyclejohn
In my opinion it is almost the opposite.

"Meta opted to use the open, decentralized social networking protocol ActivityPub(Opens in a new window) for this project, which is already used by Mastodon. That doesn't guarantee interoperability between the two competing services, but could certainly make it easier for Mastodon accounts to migrate to Project 92. The reverse is also possible, but it seems unlikely Meta would want to make it easy for accounts to migrate away from its ecosystem."

https://www.pcmag.com/news/metas-twitter-alternative-will-probably-be-called-threads

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[–] nathanpc@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For most of the users currently online it's extremely difficult to understand the concept of federation and how everything works, so I doubt it'll ever be as prevalent as "the big social media platforms", but for technically-inclined users, it'll definitely have at least moderate success.

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[–] gunnervi@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

There is a powerful network effect to overcome here, and I don't think "being federated" is enough to overcome it for most people. Reddit and tumblr and discord offered us "what if all your forums/blogs/chatrooms were in one place" which is massively convenient, and why people flocked to those platforms. Thats a transformative user experience. being federated is transformative, but the change to the user experience -- beyond a larger barrier to entry -- is minimal. The point of mastodon is that its functionally equivalent to twitter without being centralized. But there are no decentralized places left on the internet, beyond those holdouts who are either very attached to their old technology or want to maintain their unilateral control over their platform, and who are unlikely to federate.

[–] noahm@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

No. Fediverse is great by design, but is too complicated at the moment (maybe it's just how platforms are set up at the moment).

The design is not too intuitive in looking at other posts from different instances/servers. For example going to this post

[–] fouc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Unlikely. When users left Digg for Reddit the internet was smaller and the users more technically minded. And even then it was essentially just creating a new account. You need an one stop solution for users to migrate and federation by definition isn't that. As a result discovery (and growth) is still hard even for Mastodon that's been around for a while and it's a relatively mature platform.

[–] shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

It's more closely related to the initial intentions of the internet than most other social platforms. Ideally it could get things going back in the right direction again iif nothing else!

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