💔Heavy footage that vividly demonstrates how war is changing. Now the intensity of combat actions can be determined not so much by destroyed buildings, but by the amount of optical fibre.

Pilots of the reconnaissance company of the 63rd Brigade showed what Lyman looks like now. The city is holding on, but is gradually being covered by this "cobweb". Every day hundreds of enemy and our "birds" fly here – and each one leaves its mark🥺

🛡63rd SMBr | STEEL LIONS

https://t.me/ombr_63/1460

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[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How does that work? I mean, what is the relationship between drones and the fibre? Does each drone have to have it's own fibre or something?

[–] Natanael 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, they carry spools of a hollow fiber which is extra lightweight to resist radio jamming

[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Does that mean technically that these are all wired (as opposed to wireless) drones??

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 3 points 53 minutes ago

These drones are literally hardwired to the controller, the physical layer is a fibre-optic filament through which all the control actions are sent and feedback received. Commercial grade drone control over radio is vulnerable to electronic warfare of which the Russians have a suite of tools at their disposal.

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I'm interested to see what kind of cleanup can eventually be done. Cleaning up these fiber "cobwebs" can't be easy.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Fibre optic cotton candy machines.

The Ukrainians can make the Russians eat the cotton candy when the wars over.

[–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

So shall it be written, so shall it be done.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

A large enough rake

[–] MrEff@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Now is the perfect time to seize the opportunity and write/film a scifi movie about alien spiders that have come to Earth and the ensuing battles against them, leaving our human cities bombed and covered in webs. Will we defeat the foreign invaders off our homeland? Or will the barbaric aliens keep our land as a beachhead to further their conquest? Analogies may apply.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 8 points 17 hours ago

Children of time is a very good book about hyper intelligent spiders. Though in the book humans come to the hyper intelligent spider planet and not the other way around.

It's very, very good.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 16 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It has an eerie beauty to it.

I remember seeing some photos a while back of bird nests made out of fragments of fibre optic cable, those looked pretty neat too. On the plus side, when this stuff degrades it just turns into sand. So at least there won't be a toxic waste problem on top of everything else.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Plastic is preferred for dronesbecause it doesn't break.

Glass is used for long runs. As glass fiber degrades you get thousands of fragments so it's the equivalent of fiberglass. The long term effect of fiberglass exposure is pulmonary fibrosis.

https://bou.org.uk/blog-moreland-fibreoptic-drones/#%3A%7E%3Atext=A+fine+mess%2Cmake+them+difficult+to+recycle.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Only if the glass gets into your lungs, though. If it's mixed with the soil it's just sand.

Wasn't aware they used plastic fibers. I guess that would make it lighter, too.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Fiberglass in soil is a hazard to all small animals.

https://www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Article/2024/07/02/fibreglass-particles-found-in-oysters-and-mussels/

Imagine walking barefoot over thousands of tiny syringes. Or eating a seed covered in broken glass that you are unable to wash off because you are a mouse.

Yes in the very long term it will break down. But that's probably geologic timeframes because once the fiberglass gets under the topsoil it won't degrade further unless the soil is disturbed.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 1 hour ago

If it's under the topsoil then it's not going to be eaten by mice or oysters.

I really think this is one of those problems where people are looking for problems to make a big deal out of, like the massive panic about plastic straws a while back. Especially in this case where it turns out the fibers are plastic to begin with.

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If the fibers are dense enough in a particular area, doesn't that make that area drone proof?

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

How so? Wouldn't they just fly above it laying out their own spool on the pile?

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 6 points 17 hours ago

I meant a drone proof area for the people in houses under all the fibers.