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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, if you fucked up at work and the result was an absolutely historic scale of devastation to the company as a whole because your group fucked up a critical project, would you want a public detailed report about how it all happened?

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

When I fuck up, I'm expected to own up to it and learn from my mistakes. Trying to shift blame, withhold details or otherwise bullshit people who know I fucked up tends to piss them off even more. Refusing to accept accountability for your fuck ups is a cowardly move in any context.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 hours ago

probably cuz it found that supporting Israel's actions in Palestine uncritically cost a lot of voters, as did not taking a stance on cannabis and student loans

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 20 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Probably reveals pretty much the opposite of what the party leadership is saying.

DNC Leaders: "We lost because we tried to bring trans and immigrants etc etc into the tent"
Reality: "We lost because were were nearly indistinguishable from our opposition and abandoned any policy that might benefit marginalized people at the expense of our donors."

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

We lost because were were nearly indistinguishable from our opposition

I'm all for blaming the Democratic leadership for their dog shit ness but let's not get carried away lmao

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe not indistinguishable, but did a pretty poor job of presenting it as a real and meaningful choice. Tried to run a more or less "normal" campaign when the stakes were anything but. Didn't acknowledge the failings and frustrations that had rightly been leveled at the Biden administration. Tried to run Kamala as a "Stay the course" candidate instead of a "Not happy with how things are going? Time for change!" candidate. Didn't do a good job of being clearly FOR something of great value to the voter rather than just being defined by not being Trump.

Mind you, I'm fully in the camp of voting like your life depends on it, every chance you get, but a political party can't learn from their failures if they don't honestly acknowledge them first.

[–] Quexotic 2 points 7 hours ago

Remember her earliest speeches? They were very progressive. Something between 2-3 speeches were and after that you could tell she was "talked to" by someone. I wonder what that conversation was like.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 points 14 hours ago

Not everyone values issues the same way you do.

If the autopsy didn't conclude "we should stop ignoring what the voter base wants and doing whatever the hell we want instead," then it reached the wrong conclusions. Either the DNC got the autopsy wrong or they're ignoring their own findings.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 11 points 15 hours ago

The party was already implementing plans to address some of the issues raised, and releasing a retrospective report would take time and focus away from winning going forward, the official said.

There is nothing to see here, move along, move along.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Ken Martin, the DNC chair who previously said he would publicly release a review of the 2024 election, said in a statement that the review was complete and that the committee was “already putting our learnings into motion”.

So basically the results of the autopsy are damning to Ken Martin and his current ongoing strategy.

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

Ken was elected in 2025, and was seen as a reformist firebrand outsider.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Martin?wprov=sfla1

He did amazing things paving the way for the modern leftist politicians in Minnesota.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I hate Ken M. more than most, but Jaime Harrison was the chair from '21 to '25.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -2 points 12 hours ago
[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 16 hours ago

Not another dime to the DNC.

[–] TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago

They don't want to hear that the need to help the 350 million people that actually do everything that makes the country work instead of ignoring them and working for 2 dozen guys on wall street

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 5 points 15 hours ago

How very on brand for the Republicans.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

Well that’s some bullshit. One of you drunks leak it to the fediverse already.