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[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

π“ŽΌπ“ π“ŽΌπ“‚§
spoiler gitgud
getgoodreach better[ment]

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 10 points 7 hours ago

I get regularly complimented on my code for how understandable it is radiates smugness

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 15 hours ago

I'm living this right now. The lead programmers are long gone for a setup that uses Python, C++, and Linux. The only other guy who knows it is pulled to three other projects and I only have a C++ class taken over 15 years ago under my belt. I'm somehow expected to decipher this shit and explain the function of a few dozen variables and it's going as well as one might expect.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 43 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
/*
By all accounts, the logic in this method shouldn't work. And yet it does. We do not know why. It makes no sense whatsoever. It took three weeks and numerous offerings to the programming gods, including using one of the junior devs as a human sacrifice, to unlock this knowledge. DO NOT LET HIS VIOLENT AND UNTIMELY DEATH BE IN VAIN! Touch this at your own peril.
--jubilationtcornpone 12/17/25
*/
public async Task<IResult> CalculateResultAsync()
{
     // Some ass backwards yet miraculously functional logic.
}
[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

--jubilationtcornpone

He led the retreat that saved our town!

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That long-ass horizontal scroll bar reminds me of how I used to put unfindable easter eggs into my Visual Basic apps. I would have amusing little messages pop up from time to time in message boxes. To prevent anyone from just searching for the exact text in the message box, I would reduce it to a series of concatenated Chr() statements and then I would put like 200 characters of whitespace in front of the message box call. The only way anybody would spot it would be if they noticed the horizontal scroll bar this produced and nobody ever did.

At least that's my theory. It's also possible that nobody ever used the software that I produced.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

A friend of mine used to teach coding decades ago and one story I'll never forget is about the student who had an assignment that asked for a "for" loop to be used, but they didn't quite know how to use it so they just wrote a broken loop there and then hid a "while" loop at the far end of the line.

Code compiled, had a "for" loop and had the right output.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 77 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 32 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

What idiot wrote this? It's complete nonsense... Oh right.

[–] Klear@quokk.au 32 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Why the fuck would I do this? This is nonsense. This way is way better.

*half an hour later, when I run into a major, strangely familiar bug*

Ooooohhhh!

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 14 hours ago

That's when a "here be dragons" comment needs to be added.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 points 18 hours ago

A bird in a mouth is worth two in Shepherds Bush

[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 94 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

A skilled programmer can make self documenting code, so I always document mine.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 14 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Nah. No code actually documents itself. Ever. Anyone who says they can is an idiot that doesn't understand the purpose of comments and docs.

Code can never describe intent, context, or consequences unless you read every line of code in every library and framework used, and every external call. Especially if they aren't doing "fail fast" correctly.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
// Prints "Hello World!" to the screen
printf("Hello World!");
[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I did not say comments should directly explain what the code is obviously attempting to do.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

My favorite thing about the "all comments are bad" crowd is that their first example is almost always something like this:

// Add 1 to x
x = x + 1

Like, nobody that thinks comments are good and important would ever add a useless comment like that. The point of commenting is to add documentation (usually the only form of documentation that a future developer is ever going to read) only to code that would otherwise be inscrutable.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You'd think that, and yet I've once worked in a project in a fortune 500 company that basically wouldn't even compile if we didn't add comments like that. No kidding the compiler enforced specific comment patterns so if you had a line do x = x + 1, it would not compile if it was not preceded by a comment that started with "Add" and included "1" and "to x". Even in dev mode if you wanted to just try something you had to comment everything.

The original dev was super proud of this tools that generated HTML documentation about everything based on those comments. And the whole documentation was stuff like:

*price*: The price
[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Every good idea can be taken to a ridiculous extreme.

and that... is ridiculous.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 23 points 19 hours ago

I inherited a code base probably written by a squirrel, and the first thing I did was to write documentation on infrastructure, business logic, architecture, deployment and whatever. I had to read everything anyways, because the guy handing it over had no idea what it did and left the company shortly after. It's fine now, but that path was horrible.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 25 points 17 hours ago

Who wrote this shit?!

Oh, it was me. Last month.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 24 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The main reason I put effort into comments

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago

I have left this as an exercise for the reader.

[–] RedFrank24@piefed.social 52 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

The only times I've seen devs do inline comments in their code is when it's been done by AI, and I can tell it's AI because the comments are all useless and describing what's happening, not why.

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 49 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
// Format user object
function formatUserObject(user) {

I've seen lots of such crap written by humans. I guess AI had to learn it from somewhere.

[–] Thorry@feddit.org 16 points 19 hours ago

AI mostly learned it from programming tutorials and things like documentation and Q&A forums like StackOverflow. People often add comments in those cases to explain to somebody not familiar with code what is happening so they can learn from it.

In actual code written by people who write code for a living I'd hope the comments are much more useful and usually not as prevalent.

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I actually got really clean, well commented code from Copilot earlier this week.

I have no experience with JavaScript to speak of, but realized a Bookmarklet would be a perfect solution for reformatting a particular arcuate for printing. I already had a head replacement with CSS to do all the formatting, and I was using a RegEx to strip all script tags.

Anyway, I asked Copilot to write the Bookmarklet to replace the header, with full contents explaining the training behind the code, and an explanation of how the script functions below. When I got an error, I asked if to fix the error and or identified that Bookmarklets work better as single lines, so it fixed it. Then I added the requirement about replacing scripts, and it did that too, but for commented and a clean one-line version.

The one-live versions even up getting truncated, so I need to copy/paste from earlier (correct) endings, but otherwise it was an incredibly smooth experience.

I spent longer writing the guide for how to use it than the time it took to vibe code it and test it. I was super impressed.

(Granted, that's a pretty easy coding task...)

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

no experience with JavaScript to speak of

You claim no JavaScript experience, declare confident in the comments and include any examples.

All you've really said here is you vibed coded a solution to a problem using one of the most common languages without knowing the language. And made claims you do not attempt to prove.

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

I know enough to parse the code, especially with the comments. It was a logical algorithm, it worked, and it was just for reformatting a sure to print cleanly, so there was basically no rush if it didn't work. I code for work, I just don't know JavaScript syntax or functions.

Anyway, I was impressed it actually worked. I'm an AI skeptic, which is why I thought it was noteworthy to get well documented, clean, functional code from vibe codingβ€”even in such a trivial context as swapping a head tag and removing script tags.

[–] konalt@lemmy.world 28 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

// 🚨 Log error to console console.error(error);

[–] tauonite@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I once tried vibe coding a web app using GitHub Copilot. That motherfucker wrapped every single endpoint with

try:
    ...
except Exception:
    return "An error occurred"

What the fuck is wrong with you Copilot? This piece of shit trying to hide all the errors. If I don't know there are errors then there aren't errors. Apparently

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I wish to god Visual Basic was still around so Copilot et. al. could get infected with ON ERROR RESUME NEXT statements. Or its under-appreciated but vastly more horrific cousin ON ERROR RESUME.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I might make that my first coding project after I retire. I bet I can code up a global import that implements "ON ERROR RESUME" in a couple of modern languages...

[–] Thorry@feddit.org 24 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

// 🀦 You are totally right! Simply logging the 🚨 error to the console isn't proper error handling. 🫣 We now throw an exception instead. throw new ApplicationException(error);

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I sometimes suspect that I am actually an AI. I’ve always struggled with captchas and I comment my code exactly as you’ve just described.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Proper comments describe why... For example say you are using an api which requires guids and your application doesn't care are collisions as much so just use int id's.

You could add in a comment like

// creating a guid to interface with special api.

But just saying

// generate guid

Means nothing, your method should be generate_guid() or GenerateGuid(). Your comment is repeating.

Or this is probably going to hit my last company at some point, there was a system to read a serial number. They also wanted a "status" on the screen to verify the system was connected and running properly but both these values came over same signal wire. Depending on your exact ms timing sometimes you would read the status as the serial number. Another programmer wrote a check to verify the serial number did not start with OK. The comment added was

// add on 11/15/23 by Initials

With no other details. The serial numbers were 8 numeric digits. Someone won't know the history and delete this seemingly useless check and cause a 10s of 1000s of dollars in loss

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I used to write it all the steps I thought I’d need as these types of comments, then go back and write the real methods. But I usually replaced the comments with more detailed jsdocs style comments with as much detail about the parameters as returnvalues as possible.

Then I quit web dev and moved to the woods.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 4 points 14 hours ago

Yeah effectively using comments as psuedocode

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[–] HairyHarry@lemmy.world 38 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Decoding hieroglyphs with an English dictionary should do the work.

[–] bonenode@piefed.social 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Especially helpful that it is written right to left. Maybe the Manga version of the English dictionary.

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Wait until you write code that is self-hosting!

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 11 points 19 hours ago

"According to all available documentation, your code is utter shit."

[–] leo85811nardo@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like me vs my code after the winter holiday break

I started writing a giant note. On the last day in the morning I start it and add anything that I need to do after the break to it. These are very highly detailed including line numbers ro point me at the exact spot I need, names of bookmarks for reference, page number on documentation, anything that is going to unfuck the morning of the first day I come back.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 19 hours ago

That would be me and i now know im wrong. Paradox Interactives Documentation is terrible

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 2 points 18 hours ago

Just ask AI to figure it out.

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